dafdov368 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Welp... this has changed since the last time I looked at it. What do you guys think is gonna change as far as foot gear goes? 8.8.2 Cleats Cleated shoes may be worn so long as the cleats are made from a rubber compound that you can push your fingernail into. No hard plastic or metal cleats are permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I guess they decided to make the Salamons everyone is wearing legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) The salomons everyone wears are the Speedcross and they are/were legal.. Now the Fellcross were a different story and are now legal, as are Nike Sharks and other shoes with soft rubber cleats. Edited January 31, 2015 by Sac Law Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 But you can't wear other gear that isn't "practical for all day wear and concealed carry", a la bullets out. Cleats are the mark of a true "gamer", hahaha. I should know. But for real, I think this is a good rule and should be enforceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom C Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's all part of the game. Some of the folks I've shot with (in IDPA) actually don't even carry concealed. For the most part, you get out of the game(s) what you put in. IDPA, USPSA, PASS etc are all games unless someone is shooting back BUT the folks who shoot the games are infinitely better shooters (in all ways) than the folks who make it to the range once, twice a year. Yea, yea, a little off topic but it's Saturday morning and my coffee told me to type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafdov368 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's all part of the game. Some of the folks I've shot with (in IDPA) actually don't even carry concealed. For the most part, you get out of the game(s) what you put in. IDPA, USPSA, PASS etc are all games unless someone is shooting back BUT the folks who shoot the games are infinitely better shooters (in all ways) than the folks who make it to the range once, twice a year. Yea, yea, a little off topic but it's Saturday morning and my coffee told me to type this. My coffee is brewing as I'm typing this. (and I'm somewhat excited, to be honest) I was just wondering if anyone had some idea on like some kind of soccer cleats that would fall under this rule. I also play in an adult league for kickball and could use them there as too. And yes, this would be a great advantage to have because I'm always falling over when I stop or my feet are running out from under me... anything helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robport Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I'm going to recommend we ban them where I shoot...of course that's inside on a concrete floor. I can't even imagine the type of skating accidents we would have in there...especially when the floor is damp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Our club just received the Official Cleat Softness Tester from IDPA HQ. It comes with a built in temperature gage to catch those that try to soften the cleats with a heat gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) We will also need a fingernail hardness/sharpness tester to make sure no one is using illegal fingernails to test the cleats with. By the way the best way to soften the cleats is with chemical immersion, not heat. It does cause the grass to die and the gravel to discolor, and of course your feet will go numb after a couple of stages but a small disadvantage considering the potential increase in traction. Edited February 4, 2015 by Bob Hostetter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think you should be able to wear whatever shoes or knee pads you want, but must be able to conceal it all from view with your full length overcoat that has the sleeves removed. Patches on the overcoat-vest are allowed, but only below the knee so it can't be a stiffener for the pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 We use a board with a 10d nail driven through it. Step on it and if it penetrates the shoe... They are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A rusty nail would require more force. OTOH some of our "heavier" shooters could penetrate their shoes with a rail road spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 My new shoes arrived today. https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrT6V3pKu9U3nwARK4nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0aWRtNmFyBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMV8x?p=ice+climbing+cleats&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dice%2Bclimbing%2Bcleats%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&w=580&h=393&imgurl=www.rockclimbing.com%2Fimages%2Fgear%2Fproducts%2F3%2F5743-large_1587L.jpg&size=24KB&name=5743-large_1587L.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockclimbing.com%2Fgear%2FAlpine_Ice_Climbing%2FCrampons%2FMega_Ice_1587.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockclimbing.com%2Fgear%2FAlpine_Ice_Climbing%2FCrampons%2FMega_Ice_1587.html&type=&no=2&tt=120&oid=cfc7807bcadddac3e2bedf769d2f0cee&tit=Premier+Sponsor%3A&sigr=12gp1hpps&sigi=12039biqc&sign=10k461uq3&sigt=103vg5ole&sigb=12vumrqfo&fr=yhs-mozilla-001&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDMFR Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Fingernails used to test cleat hardness must be stock. Any external modifications (polish, stippling, etc.) will bump the shooter to ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I was about to point out, who's damn fingernail are they going to use, That's a bit subjective. When they told me NO cleats, I went and bought a pair of BATES boots that were equally as grippy as my cleats. and provided more ankle support. Glad they are finally releasing the some of the lame rules, they had enforced in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I have a pair of football cleats I wear in the "other" sport. Some of the blades and spikes are tipped with a rather soft rubber but the main body of the spike or blade is of a hard polymer. What would be the ruling then? The tips would pass, but not the body. Would I then be relying on the niceness and subjectivity of whoever was doing my equipment check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If you painted the tip of those dual-core cleats a green color, then they would clearly fall under the exemption, and you'd never have to worry about it. Wait, what? Oh, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'll just use a paint pen and write "Wilson Combat" on one shoe and "S&W" on the other and I should be g2g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Wilson combat cleats FTW... I just picked up some addidas Thrashers. Today is my first full day wearing them. we'll see how i feel about 5 PM! https://youtu.be/EQv08pAbWQA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeidaho Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I have a pair of football cleats I wear in the "other" sport. Some of the blades and spikes are tipped with a rather soft rubber but the main body of the spike or blade is of a hard polymer. What would be the ruling then? The tips would pass, but not the body. Would I then be relying on the niceness and subjectivity of whoever was doing my equipment check? 8.8.2 Cleats Cleated shoes may be worn so long as the cleats are made entirely from a rubber compound that you can push your fingernail into. No hard plastic or metal cleats are permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Thank you. Once again, and I should know better, a thorough reading is better than speculation and opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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