wanttolearn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 trying to learn good technique. when doing a mag change i bring the pistol up in to my working space, see the mag insert into the well and make sure its set in place as i role the support hand up the grip. on my pistol the slide locks back after the last round. the challenge then becomes how best to release the slide. to slingshot the slide i have to pivot the pistol back up and move both hands up from the grip to the slide and then back down to the grip for a two hand hold. otherwise i can move my finger up to the slide release.... wondering what most prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I p refer loading before I get to slide lock. Barring that, i prefer an over hand rack. I should mention speed is not my forte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leath4m Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I like my gun to slide lock, I reckon it helps in the "problem solving" department when running a course. But I too prefer to reload before slide lock. But when it does happen I'll just use my strong hand thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Weak hand thumb as I get my grip back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Neill Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Best is obviously not to lock the slide back. Reacting to the slide locking back to signal a reload will always be slower than actively planning a reload before running out of ammo. If it does lock back, as dansedgli says - weak hand thumb as you re-acquire the grip. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snertley Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Most slide releases are in the reach of your strong hand thumb. Use that. Its all about conservation of motion. Not to pigeonhole Glock shooters but I see a very large percentage of them sling shot the slide. I don't understand this in a match, it takes a lot longer to move your off hand up to release the slide and then regrip your firearm. If you use your strong hand thumb you can release your slide as your weak hand acquires your grip. Seems simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
als14 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 +1 for strong hand thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Weak hand thumb is VERY close to the slide lock release as you require your grip. Hence the best economy of motion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'd use my strong hand but I cant reach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Most of the time, the slide will release on its own if I jam the mag in with purpose. Glocks, m&ps. I only do the overhand rack if that doesn't happen. Edited July 21, 2014 by b1gcountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 trying to learn good technique. when doing a mag change i bring the pistol up in to my working space, see the mag insert into the well and make sure its set in place as i role the support hand up the grip. on my pistol the slide locks back after the last round. the challenge then becomes how best to release the slide. to slingshot the slide i have to pivot the pistol back up and move both hands up from the grip to the slide and then back down to the grip for a two hand hold. otherwise i can move my finger up to the slide release.... wondering what most prefer Whatever you do please just use your slide release rather than racking back the slide. For some reason a bunch of the Tactical Timmys have decided that you need to rack the slide instead of using the release but if introduces an additional motion that is much slower than using the slide stop and can introduce a malfunction if you follow the slide forward with your hand thereby reducing the effectiveness of the recoil spring in getting the gun back into battery. I user may strong hand thumb but weak hand thumb is also a good option if you can't reach with the other one. Slide lock reloads are just as fast for me as my standard reload. http://youtu.be/nC-HM2UqP4Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Either way works. The over hand method is more universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Either way works. The over hand method is more universal. Universally slower. I cringe every time I see someone use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm slow enough it really wouldn't matter if i fed each round individually with my teeth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 trying to learn good technique. when doing a mag change i bring the pistol up in to my working space, see the mag insert into the well and make sure its set in place as i role the support hand up the grip. on my pistol the slide locks back after the last round. the challenge then becomes how best to release the slide. to slingshot the slide i have to pivot the pistol back up and move both hands up from the grip to the slide and then back down to the grip for a two hand hold. otherwise i can move my finger up to the slide release.... wondering what most prefer You don't mention what game you're playing (IDPA, USPSA, ???) and what gun you're using. I shoot a lot of IDPA and UPSA as well as 3-gun so I've seen lots of people do it differnt ways. If you're shooting USPSA, learn to count and don't let you slide lock back, it will be faster in every case no matter what gun you shoot. If IDPA is yor game, 99% of your relads will be slide lock. If you're shooting a game gun (something with a large and easy to use slide release) - USE YOUR THUMB! Stron or weak had thumbs both work and best may depend you your gun / grip. But as previously stated a firm mag insert will often auto release your slide. If you are shooting a small compact / carry style gun with a small hard to activate slide release you may be faster slingshooting the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Alma is correct. The fastest way to reload from slide lock is to use your strong hand thumb. Don't believe? Get someone to time you every way you want to do it ... The timer doesn't lie ... Of course the best way is to stage plan better so you don't have to be doing slide lock reloads but that's a different conversation ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanttolearn Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 just starting out...perhaps uspsa i guess. I shoot a 1911. will work on these exercises. i really appreciate the insight and info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 On a 1911 I typically use my support hand thumb to release the slide. On a Glock most times the slide will release when I slam in a mag. On my 2011's my mags are modified to not lock the slide back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 just starting out...perhaps uspsa i guess. I shoot a 1911. will work on these exercises. i really appreciate the insight and info For shooting a 19 11th it is more important to have a functional slide release since your magazine capacity will limit your options for reloading. As stated above some limited and open shooters will disable to eliminate possible slide stop related malfunctions and then plan reloads to avoid empty chambers. It's not something that is as easy to do in Production, Single Stack, or IDPA where I consider slide lock reloads a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 trying to learn good technique. when doing a mag change i bring the pistol up in to my working space, see the mag insert into the well and make sure its set in place as i role the support hand up the grip. on my pistol the slide locks back after the last round. the challenge then becomes how best to release the slide. Personally, I use the slide release which they conveniently included in the design for that specific purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I p refer loading before I get to slide lock.Me too, but they don't allow that in my league. They don't want people manipulating a gun that still has a round in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Weak hand thumb as I get my grip back.Bingo! That's mine. Edited July 22, 2014 by bountyhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Glocks have flat slippery slide release, so that is probably why you see the sling shot method with people who shoot Glocks. They do have the extended slide release, but they tend to lock the slide back at inopportune times. Sling shot release will work ALL the time, whether you are at slide lock or empty chamber with the slide closed. Yes, it may be quicker to use the slide release, but it's not that much quicker...and if you are at slide lock, the extra time you use to sling shot the slide won't matter anyway. That being said, I use the sling shot method on Glocks, obviously. And I use the weak hand thumb on my 2011 - because my strong hand thumb doesn't reach. And sometimes i will use the sling shot on the 2011 due to muscle memory, but I don't let it bother me when I do use this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 +1 for the support thumb. Once I reload, as I roll back into my shooting grip, I get it with my support thumb. To me, this method seems a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 ...and if you are at slide lock, the extra time you use to sling shot the slide won't matter anyway. Why do you say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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