rugerdawg Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I am currently building a 3gun AR and can't help but notice the interest generated by lighter and lighter bcg's. I am using a JP 18" lw barrel w/ bolt,spikes dyna break, troy low profile gas block , JP full mass carrier with JP captured spring. I just ordered a lancer carbon fiber stock and rifle length extension tube to take advantage of a rifle length system. I am somewhat rethinking the lightweight carrier and an adjustable gas block to maximize the system. I know JP is the "man" it seems when talking lightweight carriers although it appears there are others out there. I found this company quite by accident and wondered if anyone else had tried or heard of them. http://www.toolcraftinc.com I appreciate all comments or suggestions. I have to admit their price for a titanium carrier is tempting just to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gondo Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 wow that is a good price, i bet its like most stuff and you get what you pay for but try it out and let us know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerdawg Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 I may be mistaken but I think I saw a "spikes" titanium carrier somewhere that looked almost identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWil Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I may be mistaken but I think I saw a "spikes" titanium carrier somewhere that looked almost identical. Thats what I thought when I saw it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I may be mistaken but I think I saw a "spikes" titanium carrier somewhere that looked almost identical. Thats what I thought when I saw it also. I had a spikes BCG like that but it was NiB, not titanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWil Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Here's a link to where I saw the pic http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/241886_Spikes_Tactical_Shoot_Team_Rifle_Build____Page_2__Titanium_BCG___.html&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWil Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Doesn't appear to be the same, but it made me think of the Spike's one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkyle72 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I would think it would be more of a pain in the ass to clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) http://amalgamatedti.com/bcg.pdf These guys have a ti bcg for $250 I think it's 6.75oz Anyone have any experience with this company? Edited May 20, 2014 by gunther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I tried contacting them (amalgamatedti) through their website a week or two ago. No response yet. Probably not a good sign. Edited May 20, 2014 by gdcguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) wow that is a good price, i bet its like most stuff and you get what you pay for but try it out and let us know I'd like to see one of them for sure Edited May 21, 2014 by TRUBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) http://amalgamatedti.com/bcg.pdf These guys have a ti bcg for $250 I think it's 6.75oz Anyone have any experience with this company? When I followed that PDF link, I read that it "Must be used with the Ti Buffer Tube Assembly". It didn't say how much that would be. So, the total system cost is unknown. EDITED TO ADD: Actually, I found this http://amalgamatedti.com/arms.html The assembly is $100. They have receivers and hand guards, also Edited May 21, 2014 by michael1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well I couldn't resist. I just ordered a titanium carrier from Toolcraft. They told me I should receive my order in about 4-6 weeks. I'll be sure and post a followup here to let you guys know how they perform. According to them the pic on their website is not the same as what they are selling. Their actual product will not have the holes in it. That carrier on their webpage is the one they made for another company. From what they told me, their carrier with gas key installed should weigh in at about 5.6 oz. I can't wait!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Looks like the Toolcraft Ti carrier is 1 oz lighter than a JP steel LMOS, and 1 oz heavier than the Boomfab. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I'll confirm the weight once I get it in my hands. I really wanted one of the Boomfabs, but that's just a little too much coin for me. If this one turns out to be as good as it seems, then the price point on it is pretty great by comparison. Not as light as the Boomfab, but seems like a much better value. Right now I have a Young Mfg Super light bcg in my rifle, run by a JP adj gas block, and have been happy with that so far. I have one of the Taccom ULW recoil buffers ready and waiting in my range bag and I'm excited to see how much further I can turn my gas down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midengine3sgte Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well I couldn't resist. I just ordered a titanium carrier from Toolcraft. They told me I should receive my order in about 4-6 weeks. I'll be sure and post a followup here to let you guys know how they perform. According to them the pic on their website is not the same as what they are selling. Their actual product will not have the holes in it. That carrier on their webpage is the one they made for another company. From what they told me, their carrier with gas key installed should weigh in at about 5.6 oz. I can't wait!!!! Toolcraft are sold out. did they have them instock when you ordered it or did you just call and they have you on a backorder list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Contacted them directly. Put me on their back order list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I did not see a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I received my titanium carrier from Toolcraft exactly 2 months after ordering, but I expected to wait 6 weeks, so no biggie there. I still haven't had a chance to go shoot with it yet, but I am very impressed with it so far. It is bronze anodized and weighs in at 5.5 ounces. I'll try to put up some pics later this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I got a pic of the carrier on the scale. Also attached a pic of my Young's SLC for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 The Spikes isn't that much lighter than the regular one, this one is THE BOMB: www.boomfab.com 4.4 oz carrier, I put a JP hardened bolt in it. Best gas block is SLR , they have a locking detent so all you need to do is push in then turn, let up it auto locks. they also have the lightest rails I have ever seen. I agree that the Boomfab is probably the best LW carrier that money can buy rt now. However, for the price of 1 Boomfab I can buy 2, yes 2, Toolcraft titanium carriers that are a full ounce lighter than the JP and still have $100 left over to buy practice ammo or whatever. The minimal benefit I'll get just doesn't justify the cost of the Boomfab for me right now. If I'm ever good enough that 1oz in my carrier is holding me back, then I'll make that investment. I've got a long way to go before I get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Well spoken. I have heard many times different people state that they could out shoot their guns, they were waiting for it to cycle and catch up. Without being to rude, bul<>" T. If spending the money gives that mental edge that it is faster, then I would be glad for some one to send me some funds so I could have the .02 splits. I do believe that a good experienced shooter can feel a sluggish gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Any word on the fit of this carrier in the receiver? I know the JP's are supposed to be a lot tighter of a fit than other carriers. I'm all for saving money, but not if the extra money gets a better product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I don't have a JP carrier to compare to. I only have a Young's SLC and a standard carrier. As far as I can tell, the fit of the Toolcraft carrier is about the same as the Young's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burkesw Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 gdcguns, How much did you pay for your Toolcraft carrier? I went to Toolcrafts site to look at the carrier and they refer you to http://www.crypticcoatings.com/coated-titanium-bolt-carrier-group/ where their titanium BCG is $450?? Do they sell it for cheaper if you call them direct? Boomfab is $480 for the carrier, so base on what you were saying about getting 2 tool crafts bcg's for 1 boomfab, something has changed. I really hope they still sell them direct for cheaper than $450 cause I'd like to get one. I'll try calling them tomorrow to see. Keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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