3djedi Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ok, I'm new to rifles and scopes and just shot my new AR today. I have a stag 3g with a tac 30 1-4x scope. Works great at home how I have it set up. However when I took it to the range and had my earmuffs on I had a hell of a time getting low enough to see through the scope! It's an indoor range and wearing earplugs just isn't enough. Got to have the muffs. What is the solution for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCringleberry Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What mount and stock are you using? What muffs are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 The stock is the factory stag 3g. I think it is a magpul acs.....the mount is a pepr. The muffs are Ryobi noise cancelling from my workshop. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I have the scope mounted to where the front eyepiece begins at the charging handle. Would it help to move it further forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guns Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I googled your Ryobi ear muffs and they seem a little bulky for shooting. Maybe try a different set of ear muff or try shifting your shooting position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latewatch Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sounds like your scope may be mounted too far back also try some low profile muffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 the low profile shotgun muffs work if you must have muffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sometimes muffs just don't work. Maybe it's the shape of my head, but I can't shoot a long gun with muffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What optic mount are you using? Another issue could be how you are mounting the gun to you. If you bring your head down to the gun vs. bringing the gun up to your face, you're more likely to run into muff contact issues. Low profile muffs will help some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I can't use muffs when shooting a long gun either. I believe that it has to do with cheek-weld; if you mount the gun further down your face, you have clearance for muff. If, on the other hand, you mount the stock further up your face nearer your cheekbone, there is often not enough clearance. Some good, custom - molded, high NRR plugs are a great fix. Check into Hear-Pro. Edited February 18, 2014 by wgj3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thanks. So do they make ear plugs good enough for an indoor range? It's so freak'n loud indoors that I usually wear ear plugs and the muffs on top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 No muffs for me when I shoot rifles or shotguns. I wear the surefire plugs, but I used to have a pair of the custom molded plugs that where quieter. You could try getting some made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Looking at the muffs you are using, I would say that's your main problem right there. Those things aren't even close to designed for shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Brownell's sells mold-to-fit earplug kits. Mix em up, cram em in, let em cure an hour or two. They don't last forever but they are fairly inexpensive and WAY quieter than most generic-fit earplugs. I daresay you won't even miss the muffs anymore. I get a season or two out of a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donald Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I use the custom made ear plugs. I sometimes wear muffs and plugs when S.O. due to the comps and that isn't very often. I bought some Surefire plugs, didn't really like them, way too load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 After trying 4 sets of muffs with the same results with what you are dealing with, I gave up and went with custom molded plugs. They are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBoyle Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Do you have your head in an upright position? Chinning down and looking up a little could help clear the muffs and get a cheek weld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003A28OW6 Like these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 How do you guys keep the custom molded plugs from shifting on you? I had 2 pairs made and I thought the first one was faulty because it would shift open on me while I was shooting. The second didn't exhibit that issue except for extended times on the range. But eventually it would shift enough to allow in loud noise. I mostly just use generic fit foam plugs now or Surefire EP4. Either one work more than well enough for me. The generic foam plugs most especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Jerry M shoots with some pretty big ear pro but look at how he mounts the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45shooter Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Check out Wildear. They make both digital and regular inside the ear custom plugs. You can go to an audiologist to get the molds and they make them for you. Just got a pair and they work great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brine0 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Try a pair of Surefire EP4's Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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