DrLove Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 so I'm building a 3gun AR and I need to choose the comp, my old AR had the SJC titan, what else would you guys recommend?? It's for "open" so anything goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Go with the the JP Tank Brake. The Titan is good but I think the JP is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Go with the the JP Tank Brake. The Titan is good but I think the JP is better... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 +111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Is there anything that will work as well as the tank brake but is not quite so ugly? No offence intended but it just don't look right on a nice sleek AR. Bill Edited November 17, 2013 by Flatland Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are you after looks or performance?? Try one, it'll look a lot better after you see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 My opinion is you don't need a different brake for open. You can only get to zero muzzle rise and you pretty much have that with the Titan and a few others. If you use a Tank brake you can't use that rifle in other divisions. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 You can always change comps if you want to shoot in another division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLove Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Is there anything that will work as well as the tank brake but is not quite so ugly? No offence intended but it just don't look right on a nice sleek AR. Bill They say this is: JP Large-Profile Tactical Compensator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Is there anything that will work as well as the tank brake but is not quite so ugly? No offence intended but it just don't look right on a nice sleek AR. Bill They say this is: JP Large-Profile Tactical Compensator Would definitely like to hear some actual user feedback on this one. I've been eying it as something to try on a couple of matches next season, at the very least. I could migrate my current one to my shorter barrel upper. I hope we have some past or current users of the JP Large Profile that can comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise1 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The only experience I've had with the large JP/Cooley was on a 6.5 Grendel and it was damn good. Flat and soft, just loud. If you want to keep it sleek I'd suggest a Seekins or Carbon Arms, they seem flatter and less torquey than the SJC with just a smidge difference in recoil between the three. They also have more gas going forward and away so you don't get hit with that concussive blast like with Titan or Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Luv it...been running it on my JP for 2 yrs now...not fugly like the tank but it is as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) You can always change comps if you want to shoot in another division. Not on the fly. I shoot at local matches in both Open and tac ops with the same rifle. Just remove the bi pod and put the cover on the off set red dot. I get double the shooting in this way. Besides there is no additional reduction I can tell in the Tank over the Titan from shooting the guns I have tried with both. Why not have a comp that works in all divisions if its just as effective? Edited November 20, 2013 by Alaskapopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Using a TacOps compliant muzzle brake will also help when it's time to sell. Much greater market if the gun can be used by 100% of competitors than the 7% that shoot open. Agree with Pat on this. I don't use Open only comps on my guns. There's just no advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://www.multigunmedia.com/pk-compensation.pdf Rearward Movement Down Force TTI Eliminator 63% (tie) 2nd SJC 63% 6th JP Tank 61% 5th Miculek 58% 2nd (tie) Hill’s Thunder 57% 1st JP Cooley 56% 4th Sabre’s Gill 54% 7th DNTC Neth 43% 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 You know, I've read both articles years ago and I initially used them to buy some of my original comps. In a vacuum, everything being equal, those are definitely true. However, when I tried them on different guns, they all react differently to me. For instance, I had the Titan on one of my first 3G builds and it was amazing. I put it on a different AR last year and the downward force was so much that it dipped after each shot (but it's ranked 6th). Then I put a Rolling Thunder on there and had it tuned, it had more rearward movement than the Titan (but it shouldn't, right? Titan-63%, Thunder-57%) and it was really flat. Of course, things like how they are installed, clocked, dynamics of the rifle and shooter does come into play. On the JP Tank, I talked a buddy of mine, who shoots Open, to get one. Wow, it was best shooting AR (feel, flat, felt like reduced recoil) I have shot and the only thing that came close to me was the Thunder. I also have a JP Tank on a .308 of mine and it really tames that rifle down. I definitely don't have the time behind an AR like Mr. Kelley and definitely can't shoot like him either so take this for what it's worth but it's just my journey of different builds and components over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 WOW!!!! You get it!!!! With all the crap we read and hear about comps, it really comes down to how they work for the individual! ALL I did was supply a LOT of repeatable test data, but people just want to just KNOW what the best one is! Well I can't answer that (obviously others can somehow ) so I suggest (in the articles and on all forums) that people use the info I provided to make an informed decision and buy two and see what works for them! I just got done collecting video of some 308 comps and while I will pick one using the data, I will probably not offer that info to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverphoenix Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I use the PWS FSC30/FSC556 in open; the rest of my group uses battlecomp 1.0's (I have different threading, so I can't use one unfortunately!). Nothing but compliments on the battlecomp 1.0's. For myself, I do love using the PWS and while it does look cool, the main reason I like it is because it controls muzzle rise very well and also reduces flash to near nothing in night shoots (if you do those at all). My rifle is heavy by the way--I think around 11-12 lbs, so my rifle doesn't have a lot of recoil to begin with, but these brakes work well and don't cost an arm and a leg. I found a couple new take-offs from Scars for $50 a pop. I'd try out a few comps and see what you like best in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I use the PWS FSC30/FSC556 in open; the rest of my group uses battlecomp 1.0's (I have different threading, so I can't use one unfortunately!). Nothing but compliments on the battlecomp 1.0's. For myself, I do love using the PWS and while it does look cool, the main reason I like it is because it controls muzzle rise very well and also reduces flash to near nothing in night shoots (if you do those at all). My rifle is heavy by the way--I think around 11-12 lbs, so my rifle doesn't have a lot of recoil to begin with, but these brakes work well and don't cost an arm and a leg. I found a couple new take-offs from Scars for $50 a pop. I'd try out a few comps and see what you like best in any case. With all due respect, the Battlecomp is not in the same league as all the other comps mentioned in this thread, in my limited experience. Its more of a "hybrid" or "tactical" comp, meant to have less concussion and blast than typical comps, but is also somewhat less effective in stabilizing the muzzle. Much more pleasant to be next to someone using one than an open sided comp. Sold my BC and am running a Carbon Arms comp; more effective, a bit louder to the shooter, but not obnoxious to ROs or fellow shooters at the range, based on personal experience. May go back to a more tactical comp in the future, as my only carbine serves dual purposes of competition and home defense. If I do, it will be the Griffin Arms version as its as effective and just a little over half the price of the BC. Again, thanks Patrick for steering me to that comp! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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