ambluemax Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ive been running across and hearing about super light shotshell loads off and on for a little while. I know Winchester AA has one and federal is coming out with another of these minimum dram target loads. Are any serious 3gunners using these at the big outlaw or pro series matches? I'm intrigued for the same reason we all load our pistol ammo as close to pf as we can, I have no problem with recoil- but would less make me faster? I'm a big believer in the art of the shotgun and effectively utilizing options in choke and shells... of course the flip side is do they have enough snort to reliabily cycle an auto shotgun. I tried a small hand full of the AA version in by M2 but I'm not sure how they would work in improvised positions or with a less than perfectly cleaned and lubed gun. So are they worth a try or did I just run out of things to look at in the big box gun store? Keeping in mind I'm the kind of guy who keeps super handicap / game loads on tap for applicable situations as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunCat Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 The only way to know for sure in your gun is to try the specific shell and see what happens. I can tell you from past experience that the Winchester Featherweight (I think that is what they called a shell they made with less than 1 oz of shot running about 980 fps) would not cycle the action in a M2, SBE or 1100. Same results with some ¾ oz handloads I worked up for the kids to use in CAS. I have not tried any of these shell in a Versa Max. The Featherweight shells used in a O/U did a good job on clay targets and recoil was almost non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 The AA 980 fps do run the VM. I shot some at a local match and tested out some poppers and decided they did not offer enough benefit. Lower pellet count and I had to get almost perfect hits on 18 yard poppers. However, I ran the Remington low recoil STS all year. 1100 fps, 1 1/8 ounce and just as effective on poppers as standard loads. They pattern well too. They are different enough that my transitions were faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 AA's at 1,145 and 1 1/8 oz shot are the shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It would depend on the targets, assuming your gun would reliably run the shells. The angle iron targets used at the HeMan and the little bitty plates used at the ProAm would most likely be challenging for the small shot losd of the AA featherlights,especially at any distance. On clay targets, they should work good. I bought a box to try, they won't reliably cycle my M1. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It sounds like we need to start using heavier steel or longer ranges for the targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 We use the angle iron targets to sorta simulate clays but at a fraction of the cost, they are easy to knock down just like clays are easy to break. The little steel at RC not so easy, espcially if they are presented with the tabs forward... Nothing wrong with a us popper at 18-20 yards (or a few) put in the mix to keep things interesting thou. Or a tx star, or...a paddle wheel. jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Unless I was shooting nothing but clays. I don't really see the point. Healthy loads with plenty of shot and velocity give me comfort when trying to physically knock something over. Maybe if I only weighted about 95 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Winchester white box 1 1/8oz - 7 1/2 shot 1250ft/sec knock anything down you want to point it at Sent from my SGH-I757M using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I know it's tough...but if you spend I few minutes reading below, I've done all the leg work for you! http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/d8baafea#/d8baafea/38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Unless I was shooting nothing but clays. I don't really see the point. Healthy loads with plenty of shot and velocity give me comfort when trying to physically knock something over. Maybe if I only weighted about 95 lbs. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I know it's tough...but if you spend I few minutes reading below, I've done all the leg work for you! http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/d8baafea#/d8baafea/38 Great reading. Empirical evidence is never a tough read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I know it's tough...but if you spend I few minutes reading below, I've done all the leg work for you! http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/d8baafea#/d8baafea/38 Great reading. Empirical evidence is never a tough read. Thank you sir, but suspect YOU are one of the few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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