Ron Rodgers Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 One of the options being considered for the 2005 Area 8 match is using Classic (aka - amoeba or turtle) targets. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ron, Great idea considering the timing of this match and the world shoot! Your always thinking....damn! Hard to keep up...lol! sw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherErik Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I like to use them ocasionally. Maybe have two or so stages with them, but don't do the whole match with them. Some people absolulty hate them, done give them a reason not to shoot the match. At last years Golden Bullet there were a few stages with classic targets. Reviews were mixed but I allways feel that it adds to the shooting challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Seeing as Nats is a month later and will probably be using the real targets with heads lets just forget this little brain fart and stick to the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 i think 3 or 4 stages with "classic" (i despise new targets being called classic) targets would be a great warm up for the world shoot, but don't think a lot of people will be making that journey.. ( I won't) and would love to have a great warmup for nationals.. for those who don't shoot there let it be known that E. Huntingdon is known for having area quality matches every month!!! with great stages. this match will be awesome.. maybe better than nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 i'm just getting the hang of hitting the regular uspsa targets so i wouldnt want the entire match to use the turtles, but a stage or two using them would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 heck I have a hard enough time hitting the normal targets. That A zone gets small on those targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Actually the A zone on a classic target is bigger than on a USPSA target. I don't mind it either way. All USPSA, all classic, mix of both. I'm prepared either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I'd like a mix of classic and metric targets. Here in Italy we shoot exclusively classic targets, and I am putting up a local match for saturday with a mix of stages with classic targets and stage with metric ones. We have the opportunity of different targets, why stick with only one type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ron, Mix them. Go for it. A handful of stages like that would be nice. Why not, they are legal targets...and they present a different shooting challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The idea of metric targets in preparation for the Nats sounds good, BUT I have never experienced the classic target so it gets my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.J. Norris Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Classic's on every stage!!! I personally like the target itself more, as its more of a challenge to shoot for me. And with the upcoming World Shoot, I'm sure those that are going will appreciate any chance that they can get to shoot these targets in a major match. (Wishing they would use Classics at the Nationals ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ron...you guys keep getting better and better...let's use the turtles. With no clown, we need something unique!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ok, now i'm sure BJ is nuts How about a theme match like Area 3 was... may be too much work but i like the idea it's kind of neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I'm fond of "Classic" targets (and I assume they are called this since they more resemble classic bullseye targets?) since I think they force one to pay more carefull attention to one's shooting. Those people who shoot well don't notice a difference; those who spray miss more. I think that's a good thing I'd use Classics all the time if it were up to me. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Here's a positive about the "classic". The shape is very neutral and therefore less likely to be criticized as a humanoid!....just a thought when it comes to promotion and air time with other viewing audiences. Could have some benefits for those who are marketting for the world shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBam Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Sterling... would you then need to change your active logo on all postings to show the "classic" target instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Just for you Bam! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Ron, since there seems to be a bit of pucker factor associated with these targets, that should give you the impetus to use them. Talk about a match that folks will be thinking about.... I remember several matches at EH and Clairton and some others where the classic targets were used on some stages. Talk about moaning from the shooters.... I like them, use them. Why not give us a full match taste of what the non-USPSA matches look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 gmw2b.... i hate to sound rude here, and i would like to see our sport prosper and become as huge as golf but if we use the reason that "the tv pepople will like it" we would not even be using hand guns. i think they are a good idea on stages. but a whole match of them if i wanted to be in europe i'd move there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 but if we use the reason that "the tv pepople will like it" we would not even be using hand guns. yeah, its not the targets they object to...its the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Just one question.... Why would you NOT want to see a match full of classic targets? Are they too hard???????????????? (read very sarcastically ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Steve, Your absolutely correct & preaching the the choir brother. I thru that comment out as a possitive notation on the Classic target itself. The comment however was not meant to be a starting point for a debate because that has occurred in several other threads on this forum. Myself, I train with the classic target just for those few times that they have been encountered, ie., Puerto Rico, Florida, A3...and club matches. Being able to shoot on demand is a learned behavior gained thru many experiences. The classic is another opportunity to do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rodgers Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 The goal here wasn't to start a debate on the relative merits of classic vs. metric targets. Its just that there are very few major matches out there using them and I wanted to see if there was interest in trying something different. Believe me, I'm about as far from politically correct as someone can be, so that isn't why we're considering classic targets. Of course, they are a little smaller - and I used to be a bullseye shooter ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The "Classic" Target is not classic. It is an abomination to call it such. It is a new PC target that has eliminated a considerable number of shooting options, has caused a rule to be foisted upon those of us fortunate enough to live where we can still shoot at the true classic target, ie., the USPSA target, (AKA Metric) (Metric, another pet peeve). We had the ability to present many more shooting challenges with the USPSA target than with the "Turtle", Thanks to some in IPSC we have lost that option, now we are facing a group that wants to push us to use the Turtle becuase it is "Challenging" So are tombstones and IDPA target, as well as Q's and plain old Bullseye targets, none of which have any place in USPSA Competition. You want to shoot the Turtle, go to the WS. Here in the US, leave the Good Ol' USPSA target as the target! Keep USPSA pure, leave the so-called classic for the rest of the world. Jim Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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