Youngeyes Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Looking at a Kriss vector carbine semi auto. Anyone have any experience with this gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZViking Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't throw away my money on that POS. Edited July 2, 2013 by AZViking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I have one and it's a lot of fun to shoot. It's limited in what it can do due to the cartridge but nonetheless, it's a blast and people ask lots of questions about it at the range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 http://vuurwapenblog.com/2013/06/04/why-i-dont-like-the-kriss-vector/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Looks like it would be a blast in a short barrel, suppressed and full auto format. Since we can't have the major fun switch exception, I see no real point to it myself. I would take one if you handed it to me, but after shooting some sub guns in 22, 9, and 45, I would say it lacks real appeal. Just pay the stamp to SBR a glock or sig, and then put one of those stocks on it. That is a blast and a lot cheaper, plus more controllable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I shot about 50 rounds through one. The trigger was about 500% worse than my AR15 and the recoil was about 300% more. If you have money you can't find anything to spend it on why not? But if you don't already have one of everything else why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac4wordplay Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I shot about 50 rounds through one. The trigger was about 500% worse than my AR15 and the recoil was about 300% more. If you have money you can't find anything to spend it on why not? But if you don't already have one two or more of everything else why? My correction above in red. The ergonomics weren't working for me. Location and shape of the safety thoroughly disappointed/frustrated me. The trigger, recoil, accuracy, etc. (that I experienced) weren't compelling reasons to purchase one (seemed like compelling reason NOT to purchase one). Just my opinion, YMMV. Edited July 9, 2013 by ac4wordplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I shot about 50 rounds through one. The trigger was about 500% worse than my AR15 and the recoil was about 300% more. If you have money you can't find anything to spend it on why not? But if you don't already have one two or more of everything else why? My correction above in red. The ergonomics weren't working for me. Location and shape of the safety thoroughly disappointed/frustrated me. The trigger, recoil, accuracy, etc. (that I experienced) weren't compelling reasons to purchase one (seemed like compelling reason NOT to purchase one). Just my opinion, YMMV. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I've been shooting them for years at the SHOT Show and have never seen one jam or have any issues. I've always been able to keep full auto bursts and groups on targets at a pretty decent range. I really like the idea of dropping 460 grains of lead in one spot in a very short period of time. I'm not really sure where the haters are coming from. Maybe I've just been lucky with the ones I've handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feegee Dean Matlock Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Shot one in full auto it was really cool, but not enough to buy one. Sent from Feegee's iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac4wordplay Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 ... I've always been able to keep full auto bursts and groups on targets at a pretty decent range... Chuck, I keep hearing about you doing full auto mag dumps with a G18... one handed... and keeping all rounds on target (not the upper A from a distance of 50 yards, but still...), and I don't doubt it. With all due respect (which is a significant amount), your ability to shoot the Kriss well doesn't surprise me, nor does it convince me that the Kriss is a great or desirable platform (considering possible applications and all the alternatives available). ac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I don't like it because it is FUGLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I shot a pile of rounds out of a glock 18, and it's really not that hard to shoot one handed and dump rounds onto target. It's great at that, actually. but the only vectors we can get are semi, so it seems to really miss out on it's intended purpose. I actually shot a USPSA stage with the 18 and a 33 round mag, putting 4-6 rounds per target. I went as fast as with my semi and made fist sized groups. If I could legally get one of these, I totally would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 ... I've always been able to keep full auto bursts and groups on targets at a pretty decent range... Chuck, I keep hearing about you doing full auto mag dumps with a G18... one handed... and keeping all rounds on target (not the upper A from a distance of 50 yards, but still...), and I don't doubt it. With all due respect (which is a significant amount), your ability to shoot the Kriss well doesn't surprise me, nor does it convince me that the Kriss is a great or desirable platform (considering possible applications and all the alternatives available). ac You definitely should not believe everything you hear. One handed bursts and two handed mag dumps, sure. One handed mag dumps? Sure with a 4 round mag maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac4wordplay Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ... I've always been able to keep full auto bursts and groups on targets at a pretty decent range... Chuck, I keep hearing about you doing full auto mag dumps with a G18... one handed... and keeping all rounds on target (not the upper A from a distance of 50 yards, but still...), and I don't doubt it. With all due respect (which is a significant amount), your ability to shoot the Kriss well doesn't surprise me, nor does it convince me that the Kriss is a great or desirable platform (considering possible applications and all the alternatives available). ac You definitely should not believe everything you hear. One handed bursts and two handed mag dumps, sure. One handed mag dumps? Sure with a 4 round mag maybe. C'mon Chuck, don't deny it! It was a great story and it adds to the "cult of Chuck" legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I didn't think it "recoiled" at all, it kind of pulsed. The whole gun kind of jumps but in no particular direction. Comparing it to an AR makes no sense at all, it's apples to tennis balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This gun is really only useful for the following reasons: 1. SBR - very compact and easy to deploy with a simple folding stock 2. Magazine sharing But as mentioned previously other platforms work well. I liked shooting it but not enough to buy one and I usually require no push to buy guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbox Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) I would rather have a M11/nine (full auto) and a Lage Manufacturing slow speed upper. Really controllable full auto. If you want a full auto subgun, get a full auto subgun, around $5000 total. This combination wins most of the national subgun competitions http://www.max-11.com/ Edited November 24, 2013 by Finbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polymerfeelsweirdman Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) I would rather have a M11/nine (full auto) and a Lage Manufacturing slow speed upper. Really controllable full auto. If you want a full auto subgun, get a full auto subgun, around $5000 total. This combination wins most of the national subgun competitions http://www.max-11.com/ I also like this ideaa lage m11/9 that takes suomi mags/drums is on my "must buy some day" list I've seen kriss vectors at the range and they look weird. if it wasn't so expensive for what it is I would say sure why not, but for 1700 you can get a number of more logical things like rifle caliber carbines, or if you really want a pistol caliber carbine you can get mp5 clones and pistol caliber ar15s. something else to consider is that the sig mpx should be coming in 2014 and though I think the price is pretty high, you are basically getting 75% of a suppressor with it. once you buy the suppressor sleeve and tax stamp you essentially have a suppressed sbr. Edited November 24, 2013 by polymerfeelsweirdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 not to mention the sig isn't blowback. if you have ever fired a 9mm ar, suppressed or not, you would know why blowback sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbox Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The M11 with a Lage is Awesome 1. Adjustable rate of fire, huge advantage in a match 2. Hand to hand mag changes, just like a pistol, not slow like a MP5 or others 3. Drop free mags, unlike most subguns 4. Left side charging handle 5. It is a upper/lower system like a AR 6. With stock upper can shoot up to 2000 RPM! 7. Parts are robust and cheap 8. 780 RPM all 36 rounds hit a paper plate at 35 yards with one pull 9. All steel, run it over with your truck and it still works! 10. People that say money can't by happiness, have never shot a machine gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowShooter Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 10. People that say money can't by happiness, have never shot a machine gun! Good one. I am stealing that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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