Are Glocks really that difficult?

[pawe]

Thanks for that great advice MarkCO.
I will train with it and try out the new found tips and see if my Glock disease is still curable.
I may have to get rid of it if the change will be drastic to the point that it might mess up my routine for my other guns.

[bikerburgess]

I would be surprised if learning how to shoot the GLOCK well didn't improve your shooting with other platforms. once you hone your fundamentals enough to shoot a "less good" trigger going to a better trigger is not normally a problem.

Mike

[pawe]

It's not really the trigger job that's the problem.
For me, the problem is the Glock's different kind of hold and aim. Might be just mental but one thing for sure is it's fixable.

Damn those talking heads for putting all these gun stereotypes in my head.

[dzhitshard]

I REALLY like MarkCO's hammer/tool analogy & I have subscribed to it 100% for quite some time.

I don't mean to be casting stones at you because I myself fight trigger issues transfering from duty guns carry guns & a couple of different game guns.

I constantly train dryfire with my carry gun, stock G22 with all factory parts "-" connector. Until Saturday morning my main limited G35 was set up the same except with a light FPS spring. On Saturday I put the whole Zev competition V4 connector & spring set in, completely changing the feel.

I'll save myself the embarassement & just say performance of ending 6 stages with 2 Deltas, 2 Mikes, & more C's than a first grade phonix book was less than desirable.

Again, remember no Rocks from me:

I don't think you're truely grasping it yet.

:"For me, the problem is the Glock's different kind of hold and aim"

There is no different hold & There is no different aim to any handgun if you're doing it right & doing it with a mechanically sound piece with proper POA/POI zero.

There is hold & align the sights differnce from plastic to plastic, to 1911, to 2011 etc. It doesn't change.

You would not have dropped a mag's worth of rounds at the plate rack, as you mentioned, with a "holding different" problem. You would have shot s-l-o-w-e-r times due to transitions & sight acquasition being unfamiliar with the new platform but you still would have hit a plate with every round if you executed a good trigger press.

[pawe]

UGH it's like an addiction problem. You wont be able to face the problem if you dont admit your addiction.
Same with me, I wont admit it is me that's the problem and not the gun.

[JimmyZip]

If you could find or if you have a revolver, try shooting plate racks with it. Take paint and pay attention to your trigger stroke and your shot placement. You want a pistol with a stock trigger if you got one. Then once you are drilling it with a revolver, try the Glock. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. I rarely see a revo shooter have trouble shooting Glocks. If you can grasp shooting a revolver, I am of the camp that you should have the abilities to shoot almost anything really

At some distance a friend of mine, who is a revo shooter for the most part, took my G17 and put a nice smiley face on an USPSA metric target. He had never shot my pistol, nor any other Glock. He was impressed with it's accuracy being stock, except for sights.

Get a sight tool, sand bag the gun, and once you have it totally sighted in, start working that trigger in dryfire. Watch where the sights are when the striker releases. THAT is your shot placement. That is what you need to work on. Not just where your sights are when your eyes decide to fire the gun, but where the gun was when it actually fired. They need to be the same thing.

For me with my Glock it was trigger press that I needed to work on. Once I was able to do it in dry fire where what I saw at striker release was what I was aiming at, then I took it to the range.

It worked.

[pawe]

Thanks for that great advice JimmyZip.

[JBP55]

Take a class from a good trainer.

[mike g35]

You may just have to play with it.

If it is just too frustrating, sell it and move on. This is supposed to be fun and if you are all twisted up trying to learn a technique that does not work for you, switch out the gun. I am of the opinion that the guns are tools, and not everyone uses a 24 ounce framing hammer for everything. Get the tool that works best for you and makes you smile, no stress allowed!

Best advice on a gun forum EVER. Too many people shoot "what the pro's" shoot or what their friends say is good or whatever. Shoot what YOU enjoy and what YOU do best with. (Unless it a hi-point, don't shoot that LOL)

[pawe]

Yeah I may have to sell it because it's too much time for me to learn a new gun.

And hey, I have a hi point and it surprisingly is reliable...so far. Hope I didn't jinx it.

[Ken_Bird]

Ok, been there done that. Have several T Shirts.

I have shot 1911 and 2011 for so long that I decided I wanted a change. So as many advised I bought a G-34 and a G-17. I put in all the go-fast goodies, great sights, shot them from a Ranson Rest made sure they zero, and simply made then right.

Problem's yes Like others I could not hit the broad side of a barn at close range. Fought with it, had instruction for three months and then after I came in last in my division every time I shot. STOP! Sold them. Yep a quitter thats me. Went out and bout 2 M&P Pro's and have lived happy ever after. So go figure......

[mike g35]

Yeah I may have to sell it because it's too much time for me to learn a new gun.

And hey, I have a hi point and it surprisingly is reliable...so far. Hope I didn't jinx it.

Have you ever shot a M&P? A M&P with an Apex trigger is awesome. I went from Glock to M&P and more recently to a 2011. After learning to shoot the Glock the other two were easy. Kind of like driving a Ford Escort without power steering then driving a Ford Mustang with power steering then finally driving a Lamborghini.

[RJH]

Watch that trigga slap!!

[pawe]

Ok, been there done that. Have several T Shirts.

I have shot 1911 and 2011 for so long that I decided I wanted a change. So as many advised I bought a G-34 and a G-17. I put in all the go-fast goodies, great sights, shot them from a Ranson Rest made sure they zero, and simply made then right.

Problem's yes Like others I could not hit the broad side of a barn at close range. Fought with it, had instruction for three months and then after I came in last in my division every time I shot. STOP! Sold them. Yep a quitter thats me. Went out and bout 2 M&P Pro's and have lived happy ever after. So go figure......

Thank you! I dont feel lonely anymore as I now know that there is also someone who cant hack it with Glocks the same way as I am.

And yeah, I made a pussycat move and decided to give up my Glock in the classifieds and stay with the platform Im used to.

[bountyhunter]

I've been using XDms for steel for a year now and decided to try out Glocks.

So I got me a Glock 34 with a 3.5# trigger just to have a consistent trigger pull like my Spartan 1911 and XDm 5.25 but for the love of god, I cannot hit a thing.

Yeah, sounds like me. I bought a G34 some years back. I spent many dozen hours working on the trigger... got it very light and decent, but still can't shoot it as well as other guns. No clue as to why some people can shoot them. For me, I like a trigger that takes up lightly to a definite break point so I can stage the trigger. The Glock has no trigger feel at all, you just drag on it and at some unpredictable point of travel it goes bang. Not my cup of tea. Edited July 2, 2013 by bountyhunter

[98sr20ve]

Align sights. Squeeze Trigger. Am I missing something?

[Quack]

Align sights. Squeeze Trigger. Am I missing something?

You forgot grip.

I did a 2 day class this weekend, used a 2011, M&P-9 and G17. No issues with being accurate/precise with any of them.

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Edited July 3, 2013 by Quack

[Kimbertarget]

I've been using XDms for steel for a year now and decided to try out Glocks.

So I got me a Glock 34 with a 3.5# trigger just to have a consistent trigger pull like my Spartan 1911 and XDm 5.25 but for the love of god, I cannot hit a thing.

I've been shooting/practicing with my G34 once a week for 2 months now and still have not seen progress.

Is it just me or is there a certain hold for Glocks?

I dont want to sell my other guns just to be Glock exclusive.

Let me guess are you shooting LOW or LEFT?

[enroute]

Align sights. Squeeze Trigger. Am I missing something?

You forgot grip.

I did a 2 day class this weekend, used a 2011, M&P-9 and G17. No issues with being accurate/precise with any of them.

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Yup, grip and consistent trigger work, and the rest of the basics taught by decent pistol Instructors.

Right handed shooters (as OP, I'm guessing) will shoot left as result of milking the trigger-it is a bad habit to be rid of. Get rid of it and you'll shoot everything else you own even better.

I had a G22 which absolutely sucked, ran it for an entire 3 day training class, 1500 rounds. ( I only had ammo to do the training with the .40) In the hotel room tearing it down, looking for a "problem" that was not there as an actual defect that I could fix.

End of training on day 3 I pulled out my G17 and ran nothing but head shots, not a single flyer. Traded off the 22.

Sounds to me like your trigger work is inconsistent, find an Instructor that 3 shooters you know recommend, and book some time.

[midvalleyshooter]

You are getting good advice. My suggestion is to get a nice drop in trigger before you give up on the Glock. Here is a good guy: http://vanekcustom.com/

Keith

[dlouie87]

You are getting good advice. My suggestion is to get a nice drop in trigger before you give up on the Glock. Here is a good guy: http://vanekcustom.com/

Keith

+1 on the Vanek. I purchased one off a member and put it in my g34 and noticed that the creep and break is much better. Although I have not tried the 25 cent trigger job yet, I cannot compare those two.

[P.E. Kelley]

http://youtu.be/4ShOwSDAPmM

More info on trigger control with a Glock.

[45dotACP]

You just need time. I switched from a G21 to a G34 and it took time to get used to that transition. Grip the gun, align the sights, move the trigger to the rear without making them wobble. If you're not printing good groups, it is because one of those things is off.

Try closing your eyes with the gun aimed at the berm and dump a magazine. Then recoil is no biggy. Then start shooting while watching that front sight. Don't look for the target, look for the front sight. Focus on that, watch it move up and down. Watch it lift out of your field of vision and drop back down into it. Don't be so concerned that your sight picture is the most important thing there is. Even a mediocre sight picture will get you in the A-zone at 7 yards if your trigger control is good.

Read a few pages from books written by guys named Ben, Steve, or Brian. Look specifically at grip, trigger control, sight alignment and pay attention to what they have to say.

And remember, some days are more frustrating than others. I have a G34 and I rented an XDm and couldn't hit anything with it. But I know I could if I practiced enough. You'll do fine if you practice.

[JimmyZip]

http://youtu.be/4ShOwSDAPmM

More info on trigger control with a Glock.

Friggin Kelley! I love your stuff! Now I am going to take this to the range. Thanks a bundle man.

[P.E. Kelley]

http://youtu.be/4ShOwSDAPmM

More info on trigger control with a Glock.

Friggin Kelley! I love your stuff! Now I am going to take this to the range. Thanks a bundle man.

Thank you kind sir, I strive to offer good info in a succinct manner...and you are most welcome!