38SuperDub Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Congrats Ben Stoeger for his 2nd National title in a row!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingchef Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Are foreigners not allowed to take home the Winners trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38SuperDub Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 He won the match but didn't take home national champ. He's not from this nation LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 USA citizen or a green card holder are only allowed to win the championship. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babaganoosh Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Interesting thread. where is benjamin from then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Ben is from USA and national champ, Eric is from France and match winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Interesting....did not know there was a difference. Congrats to all that shot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I am convinced Eric (and Ben) are part machine; cyborgs. Freaky fast and accurate cyborgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I never thought about it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 1350478616[/url]' post='1798624']I am convinced Eric (and Ben) are part machine; cyborgs. Freaky fast and accurate cyborgs. Don't see anything in the rules that says you have to be 100% human to compete, so I guess they keep there titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But he did not win the match ..... To quote some of Ben's own words, isn't that like winning a category award? 2nd place is pretty good, but it's still 2nd place. I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I'm just using words Ben has already said. Doesn't matter if you're 2nd or 102nd, we still compare ourselves against the best shooter present at that match, that day. And we see how we stack up. Sure you can call it a national championship, but it's still a contest of who is the best shooter at that match. And I think, or rather I hope, Ben knows what I mean when I say this, but it's true. I was awarded Area 5 Champion earlier this year, because the match winner, Shane Coley, doesn't live in Area 5. But it doesn't mean that much to say I'm Area 5 Champ, because 2nd place is still 2nd place. I'm sure Ben can do better given the chance, and this may be the push he needs. He's pushed pretty far already. Keep it up, and congratulations on your win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Congrats Ben! I bet that Krogh (#7) will be pushing the top dogs a bit harder next year. Shooting for just over a year, 1st Nationals, excellent showing. Congrats Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But he did not win the match ..... To quote some of Ben's own words, isn't that like winning a category award? 2nd place is pretty good, but it's still 2nd place. I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I'm just using words Ben has already said. Doesn't matter if you're 2nd or 102nd, we still compare ourselves against the best shooter present at that match, that day. And we see how we stack up. Sure you can call it a national championship, but it's still a contest of who is the best shooter at that match. And I think, or rather I hope, Ben knows what I mean when I say this, but it's true. I was awarded Area 5 Champion earlier this year, because the match winner, Shane Coley, doesn't live in Area 5. But it doesn't mean that much to say I'm Area 5 Champ, because 2nd place is still 2nd place. I'm sure Ben can do better given the chance, and this may be the push he needs. He's pushed pretty far already. Keep it up, and congratulations on your win! Let me see if I can quote Ben's acceptance speech, word for word. "Wow. This is a very cool 2nd place trophy. Well, that's all I have to say. Thanks everyone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Probably the best 2nd place trophy he's ever won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maks_H Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Let me see if I can quote Ben's acceptance speech, word for word. "Wow. This is a very cool 2nd place trophy. Well, that's all I have to say. Thanks everyone." Any beer cans smashing after the speech??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 But he did not win the match ..... To quote some of Ben's own words, isn't that like winning a category award? 2nd place is pretty good, but it's still 2nd place. I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I'm just using words Ben has already said. Doesn't matter if you're 2nd or 102nd, we still compare ourselves against the best shooter present at that match, that day. And we see how we stack up. Sure you can call it a national championship, but it's still a contest of who is the best shooter at that match. And I think, or rather I hope, Ben knows what I mean when I say this, but it's true. I was awarded Area 5 Champion earlier this year, because the match winner, Shane Coley, doesn't live in Area 5. But it doesn't mean that much to say I'm Area 5 Champ, because 2nd place is still 2nd place. I'm sure Ben can do better given the chance, and this may be the push he needs. He's pushed pretty far already. Keep it up, and congratulations on your win! Let me see if I can quote Ben's acceptance speech, word for word. "Wow. This is a very cool 2nd place trophy. Well, that's all I have to say. Thanks everyone." There was also something to the effect: "Now I know how (all the top European shooters) have felt in the past 15 years or so"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Let me see if I can quote Ben's acceptance speech, word for word. "Wow. This is a very cool 2nd place trophy. Well, that's all I have to say. Thanks everyone." Any beer cans smashing after the speech??? Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 But he did not win the match ..... To quote some of Ben's own words, isn't that like winning a category award? 2nd place is pretty good, but it's still 2nd place. I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I'm just using words Ben has already said. Doesn't matter if you're 2nd or 102nd, we still compare ourselves against the best shooter present at that match, that day. And we see how we stack up. Sure you can call it a national championship, but it's still a contest of who is the best shooter at that match. And I think, or rather I hope, Ben knows what I mean when I say this, but it's true. I was awarded Area 5 Champion earlier this year, because the match winner, Shane Coley, doesn't live in Area 5. But it doesn't mean that much to say I'm Area 5 Champ, because 2nd place is still 2nd place. I'm sure Ben can do better given the chance, and this may be the push he needs. He's pushed pretty far already. Keep it up, and congratulations on your win! Let me see if I can quote Ben's acceptance speech, word for word. "Wow. This is a very cool 2nd place trophy. Well, that's all I have to say. Thanks everyone." There was also something to the effect: "Now I know how (all the top European shooters) have felt in the past 15 years or so"... I was talking about the top open guys, not really just the European guys. I like Eric, but damn he is on a whole different level than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Congratulations to you, Ben, nonetheless. I should be happy if I ever shoot as well as you do on your worst days on the range, and what you did was a performance not to be dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Good work, Ben! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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