Mikethor Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Anybody using win 231 in .45 cap 230 lrn, about to purchase powder today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLES D Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I use 231 for my 45 ACP. A little dirty but meters well thru a 650. 5.0 grns for moly 230 bullets reach a 172 P.F. 5.3 grns for 230 M.G. reach 168 P.F. Of course your gun may be different than mine but it should get you close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks for that I have ordered my dill on 550 b and are shooting a sig 1911 tacops with a 5 inch barrel, so are still setting everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBandit Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm running slightly more 5.2gr with MBC 230gr LRN with Win LP primers (Sometimes Fed primers) at 1.250 COAL, still pretty soft shooting. Also it may be dirty to some but if you used to shoot White Box like me it's WAY cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSlim Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I do and I'm happy with it. It is versatile, can be used in a lot of different calibers, and there is a bunch of published data on the powder since it has been around so long. BTW, HP38 is the same powder and generally is a bit less expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey001 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) i use 5.6gr of W231 w/ 230gr fmj's. shoots well. it is a bit dirty, but i don't mind that over performance. my OAL is 1.265" Edited December 16, 2011 by codemonkey001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I use 4.9gr with 230gr LRN, 5.0 with 230gr berry's plated round nose and 5.3 with 230gr FMJ all with @ 1.25" to 1.26". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I use exactly the same load as Codemonkey (5.6 grains) over a 230 gr. FMJ at exactly the same length he specifies (1.265"). Very reliable, with good muzzle velocity, and good accuracy in a variety of handguns, including: 3 1/2" bbl Colt OACP 4 1/4" bbl S&W 1911PD 5" bbl Colt GM 5" bbl Ed Brown SF 3.78" bbl Glock G36 4.6" bbl Glock G21SF 4 5/8" bbl Ruger Blackhawk with .45 ACP cylinder installed KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotslow Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I use Win 231 for 9mm, 38 spec 357 mag, 40 S&W, 45 acp 45 schofield, and 45 Colt. I have been searching for something better. There is not. IMO I use Trail Boss for cowboy loads and VV N320 for competition 9mm. My goto powder for 40 S&W and 45 acp is Win231. My $0.02 worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I've messed with quite a few different powders for .45acp - bullesye, 700x, accurate #2/#5/and #7, the dots red/blue/and green, Unique, royal scot, WW452AA, WW540 (now HS-6), WW231, and a few cheap-o pull powders. Now WW231 is pretty much the only powder I buy and keep for .45. (although, I still have several pounds of WW452AA I'm saving for when the .45 comp gun makes a resurgence....5.7g over one of Rick McDowell's 180g Competition Specialties bullet was the cat's meow!) WW 231 is very accurate, meters great, works with all .45 loads, maybe a little dirty but i never thought it was that bad. A great go-to powder for the .45 acp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 The Win 231 is on the way now along with the federal primers and 230 gn lrn and the Dilllon will arrive this week just in time for Xmas. thank you all for the input it was appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLES D Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Now the fun begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSlim Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Sounds like you'll be setting up the Dillon on Christmas afternoon. Good luck and have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Just to throw out a suggestion. I did a taste-test comparison yesterday with 100 rounds of each of 231 and WST loaded to the same power factor. SLow-fire, bill drills, and timing drills. The 231 was ever so slightly softer feeling than the WST but WAY Dirtier and Smokier than the WST. THey both felt good and metered well. Just liked the cleaner, less smokey way the WST shot. YMMV. Was shooting Vit.N320 before and either of these was an improvement in .45ACP in my opinion. Happy Holidays! Cheers623 DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnmccoy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I have used it with good results under my 230 PRN from XTREME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Well finally chonographed my nice shooting load and using Best Bullets 230 grn LRN with 4.5 grn WSI 231 (Lee load manual shows 765 fps)the chrono was showing around the 650 fps mark which hits around 149-150 PF. No wonder it was nice shooting, anyway have done a batch using 4.8 grn and 5.0 grn which should be closer to the 170 PF. Will test these later this week. I needed the the practice anyway and its fun making these loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amp Mangum Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Well finally chonographed my nice shooting load and using Best Bullets 230 grn LRN with 4.5 grn WSI 231 (Lee load manual shows 765 fps)the chrono was showing around the 650 fps mark which hits around 149-150 PF. No wonder it was nice shooting, anyway have done a batch using 4.8 grn and 5.0 grn which should be closer to the 170 PF. Will test these later this week. I needed the the practice anyway and its fun making these loads. 4.8 made major for me out of a 5 inch Gov't Model. It was soft shooting and accurate, a little dirtier than WST but not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well finally chonographed my nice shooting load and using Best Bullets 230 grn LRN with 4.5 grn WSI 231 (Lee load manual shows 765 fps)the chrono was showing around the 650 fps mark which hits around 149-150 PF. No wonder it was nice shooting, anyway have done a batch using 4.8 grn and 5.0 grn which should be closer to the 170 PF. Will test these later this week. I needed the the practice anyway and its fun making these loads. 4.8 made major for me out of a 5 inch Gov't Model. It was soft shooting and accurate, a little dirtier than WST but not that bad. Thanks for that. i am shooting a 5 inch sig 1911 so will see how the new loads work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What OAL are you using? I saw posts about 1.25, and my STI Trojan will not tolerate that at all with Lead. For FMJ,that is a perfect length in my gun. Couple different guys mentioned 1.20. I'm going to give that a try, but just thought it was interesting with everyone using a longer OAL with lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Oal of 1.265. The 5.0 gr of Wsi 231 takes mv to around 730 which is still short so the next batch at 5.1 gr should do the job and get me past 740. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtrooper Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Just to throw out a suggestion. I did a taste-test comparison yesterday with 100 rounds of each of 231 and WST loaded to the same power factor. SLow-fire, bill drills, and timing drills. The 231 was ever so slightly softer feeling than the WST but WAY Dirtier and Smokier than the WST. THey both felt good and metered well. Just liked the cleaner, less smokey way the WST shot. YMMV. Was shooting Vit.N320 before and either of these was an improvement in .45ACP in my opinion. Happy Holidays! Cheers623 DVC Shooting a 5" .45 Springfield with a fitted Barsto barrel. W231 works good but as some have said it is dirty. I finally changed over to WST and it is better for me than W231. I is cleaner in my gun and gives better accuracy by far over the W231. Oldtrooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Mikethor - 5.4 grains of 231 makes a very accurate load with good 230 grain LRN bullets. bump to 5.6 for 230 FMJ -john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Mikethor - 5.4 grains of 231 makes a very accurate load with good 230 grain LRN bullets. bump to 5.6 for 230 FMJ -john Thanks John, have not been able to Chrono the 5.1 grain load yet but 5.3/5.4 will be by next testing load depending on how the 5.1 goes. The bullets I`m using are Best 230 gain LRN and they have some gold coating on them. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Well finally chronographed the load and 5.1 grn of Winchester 231,Federal primers and Best 230 grn LRN hits 750-760 fps which makes major. Thanks all for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethor Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Mikethor - 5.4 grains of 231 makes a very accurate load with good 230 grain LRN bullets. bump to 5.6 for 230 FMJ -john Had not chronoed any loads for a very long time and have a big shoot coming up. Lucky I did, I'm shooting a colt gold cup at the moment and now using berrys plated 230 grain same coal and 5.1 g of 231. Average of 650 fps and need 740 from memory to make major - big drop changing from the sig and to plated from lrn. Just brewing up a batch using 5.4 of 231 which should do the trick ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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