fudd Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Okay guys & dolls, Since started reading post in Revo forum I have started a family with 625-8 5", a 627 no lock full lug 5' 6 round and a 627 PC 8SHOT 5". My next acquisition must be a 617, it will for cheaper practice sessions. Since will start as a practice gun for ICORE which barrel length 4 or 6" and why? Cylinder I am leaning towards is the 6 shot to keep with the 6 round guns. So when I practice it will go bang,bang, bang, bang, bang,bang and then click if I pull trigger to meany times. Whete as the 10 woud go bannnnnnnnnng, bannnnnnnnnnng, bannng, bannng,bannng, banng, plus 4 more bangs, thus confusing my count. Your input would be appreciated. Any and all advise will be weigh for its reasoning, Thanks, Jerrt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBorland Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 So when I practice it will go bang,bang, bang, bang, bang,bang and then click if I pull trigger to meany times. I recommend the 10-shot. It adds to the versatility of an already-versatile gun. The 10-shot is a dandy rimfire steel gun, for example. Pulling the trigger too many times is a shooter issue, not a gun-related one. The 10-shot will force you to become familiar with the number "6" quickly. Barrel length is more subjective. The 6" feels muzzle heavy to me. Besides, most of my CF revos are 4", so the 4" 617 was the better choice for me. BTW, accuracy is excellent, so even with it's 4" barrel, it can be pressed into target duty when needed. If you want the perfect set-up, you could get a 6", then have a gunsmith cut it to 5" and install a Weigand interchangeable sight base, so the barrel length and the sights match it's CF sibling. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Okay guys & dolls, Since started reading post in Revo forum I have started a family with 625-8 5", a 627 no lock full lug 5' 6 round and a 627 PC 8SHOT 5". My next acquisition must be a 617, it will for cheaper practice sessions. Since will start as a practice gun for ICORE which barrel length 4 or 6" and why? Cylinder I am leaning towards is the 6 shot to keep with the 6 round guns. So when I practice it will go bang,bang, bang, bang, bang,bang and then click if I pull trigger to meany times. Whete as the 10 woud go bannnnnnnnnng, bannnnnnnnnnng, bannng, bannng,bannng, banng, plus 4 more bangs, thus confusing my count. Your input would be appreciated. Any and all advise will be weigh for its reasoning, Thanks, Jerrt My opinion is get a 6" 10 shot. It will be better if you get into a competitive situation (probably steel, maybe the new ICORE division?). It will more closely approximate your other guns (the heaviest kframe possible). I am about to find out if the new more better 10 shot speed loaders are actually more betterer. Trust yourself re counting to 6, especially in practice. The other point of view is that of those who like to make practice with the .22 more difficult. You already will have a heavier pull and the shorter barrel is more of a challenge. Whatever. Get one and start getting the reps in. Edited November 4, 2011 by underlug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latech15 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I just got a 4" 10 shot. even with 10 shots you will spend more time reloading than shooting. I got the 4" because I put a dot on it. Sight radius has nothing to do with it. Btw I shot a 12" plate 6 out if ten times at 100 yards. Accuracy isn't an issue either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hello: I have shot the 6" 617 10 shot and it feels heavy to me. I own a 4" 617 10 shot since I can use it for steel shoots and fun. Get the 10 shot and 4" barrel and some DS-10 loaders. You will go threw 500 rounds real fast Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I had a 617 10 shot 6" and sold it to purchase a 617 10 shot 4". The 6" barrel was nose heavy and felt like it was dipping on every shot. The 4" balances more like the 5" 625. I would also recommend the 10 shot vs the 6 shot. Buy some speed loaders and a loading block and you will be good to go. Keep in mind there is no way to get a trigger job on a 617 that comes close to the 625. About the only thing you can do is polish parts, get a long firing pin and back off a little on the main spring. Anymore than that and you give up reliable ignition. As already mentioned the 10 shot guns are great for Steel Challenge rimfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I found the 6 inch barreled 617 with full lugged barrel a bit too muzzle heavy for my taste. I puirchased the 4 inch version and enjoy shooting it. I wish they made the 6 inches without the full barrel lug much like the olf K-22's. I am tempetd to purchse a 6 inch version and have the front part of the lug milled off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I suggest the 6 inch 10 shot. It gives you a longer sight radius and helps unless you plan on putting a dot on the gun. If you decide to shoot steel matches you can push yourself and have extra shots available. The 10 shot gives you the same advantage as the 8 shot 627. And you can get the DS-10 speedloaders and loading blocks for it. They work great. Next thing, learn to count to six if that is a big problem for you. Just fire six shots and stop. No big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian B Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 My first revolver was a 6 inch 617 10 shot. When it comes to deciding how many rounds just ask yourself : do I want to practice shooting or practice reloading? The DS-10 speed loaders and loading blocks are inexpensive and highly recommended. I shoot revolvers in NRA PPC as well as USPSA/IPSC. My PPC revolver is a totally tricked out 686 with a 6 inch bull barrel. My IPSC revolver is a model 610 with a six and half inch barrel. Every time I go to the range for practice I will put down 200- 250 rounds 22lr in the 617. I will then shoot between 100 and 150 rounds of the competition revolver of choice for that evening. Meanwhile in the booth beside me my wife is banging away on her 5 inch 627 PC eight shot. If I am not using the 617 then she is. You may wish to consider that a longer sight radius of 6 inches will give you more precision than a shorter barrel of 4 inches. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudd Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks to all who posted. Really enjoyed reading your experiences and advice. Now to put on the decision making hat. Thanks again, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-10-SPEED Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think if you discover a steel or .22 bowling pin match you will find that the 10 shot is the best option. I also have a 6 shot 617 and don't find the trigger pull to be that much different, during rapid fire shooting I don't think much about it, I just run out of ammo sooner. As far as barrel length, I prefer the 4" for close/fast targets and the 6" for more distant targets. The guys in Indiana established a rimfire revolver iron division at their Steel Challenge match, which worked out for me. When you get hooked on rimfire shooting you are going to end up with both barrel lengths anyway so it doesn't matter which one you get now. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I also went with the 4" 10 shot. I put the same grips and release as my CF. with a 1" shorter sight radius and a slightly worse trigger - my CF seems like a cake walk on tighter shots. I use mine for SC and also practicing trigger cadance. Don't overlook convenience either. No casting, no loading, no real expense, no clips. Just grab the gun and a brick of bulk and head to the range. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I also went with the 4" 10 shot. I put the same grips and release as my CF. with a 1" shorter sight radius and a slightly worse trigger - my CF seems like a cake walk on tighter shots. I use mine for SC and also practicing trigger cadance. Don't overlook convenience either. No casting, no loading, no real expense, no clips. Just grab the gun and a brick of bulk and head to the range. Lee not to mention: the pure fun and an excellent gun to start new shooters with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I like my 6". Works for me. I am a big guy and have strong hands so perhaps a smaller person might find it "heavy'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lora Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Not much to add to the choice of barrel, its personal and you can't go wrong with either. really good advice from all. I stress the benefit of the 10 round model, for all the obvious reasons but 2 most important reasons are the Ds-10, or other copies, which is an absolute mandatory must have, trust all those who've already commented. And the other most important reason is that you won't have to deal with answering yourself, "why didn't I just listen to everyone and get the 10 rounder intead of the 6 at the beginning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudd Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 OK, ok, I give. The 10 shot it is. May have a line on a 4" 10 shot. Will start there. Thanks again, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think the perfect choice would be a cut back 6" or one with weight taken off the barrel, but that is not always an option and a lot more expense. I don't have any problems with 50 yard shots, but I also replaced the front with one of Warren's thinner and taller fronts. The top right is my 610 top left is the 617 - this was taken before I got the replacement front for the 617. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I like my 6". Works for me. I am a big guy and have strong hands so perhaps a smaller person might find it "heavy'" I'm with you Merlin. Let the others play with their shorter barrels. I am sure it is not the size/length that matters, but, what you can do with it.........or so I have been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian B Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I used my 6 inch 10 shot 617 ( 43oz ) to teach my 8+10 year olds how to shoot. The new 8 shot 4.2 inch Ruger sp101 (30oz) would be a better choice had it been available. Difinatly worthy of consideration, fiber optic front sight also as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks "thread"... now I've got the bug in the ear to get a 617 now too! I will likely get a 4" since that what my 686 and 625 are... each with the patridge front sight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisenhow Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks "thread"... now I've got the bug in the ear to get a 617 now too! I will likely get a 4" since that what my 686 and 625 are... each with the patridge front sight too. Dave, let me know if you want to try mine sometime. Although, it currently is wearing an ultradot matchdot for bullseye duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1911 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 After watching Dave P. run his 617 at the Harvard Steel Challenge Match last weekend, I have to admit that I'm jonesing for a 617. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichetucknee Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have a 617 - 10 shot model with a 6 inch barrel. It is one fantastic revolver. However, I feel it is a bit too muzzle heavy. A four inch barrel is in my future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Has anyone had weight milled off like the PC guns? Similar to this? http://black-talon.org/RKBA/guns/Pistols/S&W_627PC_10x7.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr7070 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Has anyone had weight milled off like the PC guns? Similar to this? http://black-talon.org/RKBA/guns/Pistols/S&W_627PC_10x7.JPG S&W has produced some 617s in the past with the sloped profile bbl for European distribution. Once in a while one shows up in the USA. Getting one milled might be cheaper, though??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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