Tactica Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 My appoligies if this has been covered, I did some searches and was not getting any hits. I had my fiber front break on me for the first time at a match recently, and swapped it out for some spare that I had. The replacement was exceedingly brighter than the old rod I had in it. That got me thinking. I've seen the Viridian lasers compared to the Crimson Trace red lasers and much prefer the Green over the red for whatever reason, especially at distance and in daylight. Dawson sells both and went ahead and ordered some of each. Just wondering outdoors and on over cast vs bright sunny days, is the general concesus that one color is better than the other for competition USPSA shooting? As it relates to back drops and target colors of white / brown, does one show up better to the eye than the other with these background colors in mind? Are there seasons or lighting conditions where you want to plan on switching from one color to the other... low light dark house vs. foggy vs. bright sunshine clear sky? I've heard of yellow / orange fiber, but haven't found any with a few online searches... are these ever preferred over the green / red more or less standard two colors? Thank you in advance for your thoughts, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsbllrooster Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 From my limited experience, I think the red shows up a little brighter then the green. I bought a gun used and it had the green on. It broke so I replaced it with the red and wow was it bright. Then the red broke a few months later and I figured that the green wasn't as bright probably because it wasn't a new rod so I went back to the green but I still think the red is brighter. I'll probably run it for a few matches but when it starts to dull I will probably go back to the red. I think there are varying opinions here but I must confess I am red/green color deficient according to my optometrist so you my as well forget everything I just said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactica Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 From my limited experience, I think the red shows up a little brighter then the green. I bought a gun used and it had the green on. It broke so I replaced it with the red and wow was it bright. Then the red broke a few months later and I figured that the green wasn't as bright probably because it wasn't a new rod so I went back to the green but I still think the red is brighter. I'll probably run it for a few matches but when it starts to dull I will probably go back to the red. I think there are varying opinions here but I must confess I am red/green color deficient according to my optometrist so you my as well forget everything I just said You mentioned something here about it dulling... is it normal to swap out fiber every so often? Do they lose some of their illumination over time... just to dust, gunk, soot.. whatever build up? As I originally mentioned, the new replacement rod was amazingly brighter, even with just going to the same color. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 A shooter I know uses red, and then uses lenses on his Rudy's that enhance the red color. Rudy Project also has a set of lenses that enhances greens, but it goes on their non-shooting line of glasses. They may have the same green enhancing lenses available for their shooting line. What I recall from the old cheap pair of aviator glasses I got from my dad back when I was high school, they enhanced green colors quite well. (School colors were green and white, and girls' uniforms had green skirts. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 If I recall the human eye is more sensitive to green then red. I plan to replace my stock front sight with a green FO after my next next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactica Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 tinted glasses... that's another good point. How a particular color fiber looks with tinted glasses. I tend to wear either clear, rose or an orange colored tint lense in my shooting glasses. For indoor / dark house I go clear. For overcast days I go with the rose colored. For clear sky bright days, I go with the orange colored. I guess I need to consider the glass tint as well when looking at these different fiber inserts... good call... hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 A shooter I know uses red, and then uses lenses on his Rudy's that enhance the red color. Rudy Project also has a set of lenses that enhances greens, but it goes on their non-shooting line of glasses. They may have the same green enhancing lenses available for their shooting line Basic color theory - if you match your fiber color to your lens color, you'll get good results. The thing you want to avoid is using a green fiber with red sights or vice versa - the FO will still stand out, but nowhere near as bright as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) My old eyes prefer green FO. It is a round dot where the red is fuzzy. That being said, I have read where FO are affected by solvents and cleaning solutions which might be why they are going dull. FWIW Richard Edited October 27, 2011 by chirpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvary45 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I switched from red to green FO, for me the green is easier to pick up quickly and see easier on most all backrounds. The human eye will naturally pick up green colers faster than red colors, now that being said everybody see colors in a tiny bit different shade, so whatever works best for you run with it and dont look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Although there are exceptions in both directions, shooters under the age of 40 seem to prefer red FO and those over 40 seem to prefer green. I used to prefer red. Now I've gone green all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 That is exactly what I have been told and have observed in conversations in the past . . . . the "senior" guys seem to prefer the green optic. Also noticed that Wilson Combat is sending their pistols out the door with green fibers in the ones they sell with the F/O sight. Ken Although there are exceptions in both directions, shooters under the age of 40 seem to prefer red FO and those over 40 seem to prefer green. I used to prefer red. Now I've gone green all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2osport Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Shooting with a friend who had green in his gun last night, in low light the green was waaaaaaayyyyyyy brighter. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksim Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 28, and I prefer Green. Just soooo much brighter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've like red...though now that I'm shooting Open when go back to the fiber optic and treat it like a dot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 This may be my eyes and age, but it partly depends on the light and the background. My range is rather shady and the berms are all covered with foliage and trees. On that range, green seems to work significantly better. Another range I shoot at has very little shade and the berms are sandy. On that range, the red stands out better than the green. Overall, I prefer the green because it works better most places that I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Although there are exceptions in both directions, shooters under the age of 40 seem to prefer red FO and those over 40 seem to prefer green. I used to prefer red. Now I've gone green all the way. I prefer red. I am NOT an old guy!I prefer red. Well, maybe sometimes green looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDevil Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Although there are exceptions in both directions, shooters under the age of 40 seem to prefer red FO and those over 40 seem to prefer green. I used to prefer red. Now I've gone green all the way. I can add a datapoint to this. I am under 40 and prefer red. Tried the green, but just doesn't seem to light up like the red does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunfixer Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I have this theory that Red is best (for me..) because it doesn't blend in to the background particularly in Spring, Summer & Fall when the natural background/ backstops are often inherently green.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofishl1 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Here are some related discussions to FO sights and other thoughts that may be helpful.... O1 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=136813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter545 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've tired both colors and the red seems to work best for me. Having said that i do like the green tritum sights on my carry gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) The two primary colors that show up in color blindness are red and green.....also a tie in with specific areas/types of color blindness with eye color. Might have something to do with individual preferences on FO colors..? Thank you Dallas Museum of Science for your display of color cards that made me realize that I can't see certain colors. Never noticed it in everyday life for 30+ years... Edited December 1, 2011 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 That's kind of like arguing blinds over brunette's, it usually boils down to personal preference. I use red in front and green in back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 red seems to be brighter but not as easy to focus on as green. going to be sticking with green. interesting that the M & P Pro comes with a green fiberoptic front sight out of the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOST Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) I use any color . And sometimes no FO . I like the looks of the red and the brightness of green . But it is good to change here and there. Sean Gaines has a post somewhere here " Food for Thought " that talks about FO . Check it out. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=129746&pid=1462370&st=0entry1462370 Edited December 1, 2011 by BOOST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glknineteen Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Something else to think about is what your surroundings look like. I prefer green, and it works really well for me because I live in the desert, where the backstop that I'm shooting at is reddish, so the green doesn't ever get lost. I wonder if the people who live and shoot in greener areas prefer red for the same reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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