Sarge Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I think I'll go ahead and order a black racer's cut *thumb rest [generic]* from Shooter's Connection this evening. I think the standard *thumb rest [generic]* is just too big. I just thought I would see if I can get some feedback on them before buying. From what I can see they appear to be smaller than the original and they allow removal of the slide without taking them off. Am I missing anything here? Thanks Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Racer cut works great, no problems. On my gun I added some grip as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dis-1-Shooter Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 You can also try to cut it yourself. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Price Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) love mine, although i did have to cut mine because i like it further back than most. I just trim forward to the first screw hole and it makes it perfect for my short thumbs and still can take the gun apart without taking it off. Edited September 26, 2011 by Mat Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hello: The Racers Cut fits my large hands and allows lots of room for your thumb to sit on. I use one on my Open pistol with a Quinn II mount. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Wow ordered it Friday night and it was here when I got home today. Utterly impressive! I'm going to bolt it on in a few minutes. What is the sweet spot for mounting? I don't want to assume it is as simple as "it will just feel right". Those of you who are much more experienced in Open and use a thumb rest have any words of wisdom for mounting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have mine mounted starting with the rear hole on my Quinn 2 mount. My hands are large and this feels comfortable to me. The idea behind the *thumb rest [generic]* thumbrest is that pressure is applied to the side of the gun not foward or down. If you go to thier website it explains the design and proper use of the rest. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriojas Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 What kind if mount are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Egan Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Mine is mounted to the rear-most sight mount hole, but it really depends on how long your thumb is. If mounted correctly, it should cause your weak hand grip to squeeze. Make sure to tell Dr. Chet thanks, he had a ton of stuff on the Nationals Prize table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 just put one on my Open gun, so far I like it and its going to stay on. first thing I noticed is that it really locks your weak hand in giving you a stronger firmer grip. precise shots are a little easier now. I want to say that my splits have improved a little but I still shoot the Open gun like a turtle (high B class) so I cant say for sure. definitely feel like I have more control. havent put in enough dryfire time to get used to the new grip yet. mine is installed on a Quinn 2 mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Egan Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Blaster, Glad to hear its working out for you! Yes, it definately will give you a better, opposable grip, while allowing your trigger finger to relax. Consider the recent World shoot in Greece. Only 6 of 29 stages were won with the neutral grip, while 23 of 29 stages were won with the opposable grip. Of course Eric Grauffel won the overall again using an opposable grip. The Neutral Grip has not won the World shoot since 1996 when Todd Jarret won. It looks like those guys who figured out the original thumb rest back in 1990s were right all along? Something to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have the Racers cut thumbrest on all of my open guns. I start with the last hole (looking at the side of the gun the far right hole) on the Quinn II and Cheely mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Blaster, Glad to hear its working out for you! Yes, it definately will give you a better, opposable grip, while allowing your trigger finger to relax. Consider the recent World shoot in Greece. Only 6 of 29 stages were won with the neutral grip, while 23 of 29 stages were won with the opposable grip. Of course Eric Grauffel won the overall again using an opposable grip. The Neutral Grip has not won the World shoot since 1996 when Todd Jarret won. It looks like those guys who figured out the original thumb rest back in 1990s were right all along? Something to think about very interesting facts. after using my pedal for such a short time I can see the advantages of it. plus it makes my racegun look even more high speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Blaster, Glad to hear its working out for you! Yes, it definately will give you a better, opposable grip, while allowing your trigger finger to relax. Consider the recent World shoot in Greece. Only 6 of 29 stages were won with the neutral grip, while 23 of 29 stages were won with the opposable grip. Of course Eric Grauffel won the overall again using an opposable grip. The Neutral Grip has not won the World shoot since 1996 when Todd Jarret won. It looks like those guys who figured out the original thumb rest back in 1990s were right all along? Something to think about I asked you this on another forum and never got an answer. What is the opposable grip compared to the neutral grip? I don't even know what they are. That being said, my left thumb is WAY further forward that the gaspedal would allow me to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 My left thumb also is much further ahead... I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupture Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I have yet to see one of these on a gun with a racker, is there enough clearence between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I agree, they need a *thumb rest [generic]* for those of us who throw our thumb way forward to get the strongest weak hand grip possible. Let's remember, it's not the end all, do all. Grauffel may have won first in the world shoot with a *thumb rest [generic]*, but Racaza got second with the weak hand thumb way forward grip . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfmaster Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The racers cut GP is simply a great addition to an open gun and I wish I added one to my gun sooner. In fact, for years, I didn't think much of this add-on, discounting it as a gimmick. And was I wrong. I've had many open guns and my latest one is a full-size Major 9mm with a bull barrel and titanium comp. I shot this for 20 months but wasn't satisfied with its still-relatively heavy recoil. I decided to switch to a steel comp to help reduce recoil. At the same time, I asked my gunsmith to install the *thumb rest [generic]*. I had it installed in September but didn't have a chance to fire the gun until a match in November. I happened to win this match while shooting with new totally new configuration - and after not firing a shot for four months. First off, a steel comp is nearly a necessity for a Major 9mm gun, making it much more controllable and easier to shoot than a titanium comp. The racers cut GP was icing on the cake. It helps you get a firm weak-hand grip and it even helps correctly position your strong hand, too, making it much easier to drive the gun, manage recoil, and call your shots. I finally found the right combination!!! I even tried to fire the gun without using the racers cut GP and there's a considerable difference in recoil and dot tracking. Simply stated, it was worse without the racers cut GP. The racers cut GP is the equivalent of adding another contact point to your gun. So, instead of have just one and a half points of contact, you now have two points (full strong hand, half weak hand, half thumb), which improves overall shootability and handling. [On a similar note, a rifle has four points of contact (buttstock, cheek weld, pistol grip and forearm), which is why it's easier to shoot.] In the pics below, my gunsmith reduced the width of the racers cut GP, added checkering on the pad, and removed and rounded the rear section of the item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latech15 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I have mine mounted starting with the rear hole on my Quinn 2 mount. My hands are large and this feels comfortable to me. The idea behind the *thumb rest [generic]* thumbrest is that pressure is applied to the side of the gun not foward or down. If you go to thier website it explains the design and proper use of the rest. Hope this helps. School me on this please, why would you want more pressure on the side of the gun instead of down or forward to reduce muzzle flip? I know that when shooting strong hand only the gun will recoil to the left, but that is because the weak hand is missing. Even with a production gun, simply adding the weak hand brings the recoil back to straight up and down. I use my *thumb rest [generic]* to push forward and down. I have it mounted on the farthest hole from me as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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