shred Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 After Area 4 the cat is out of the bag (well, everybody in Central TX has known for a while) Since it might be the last-gasp for Modified and I've always wanted to run one, we built up a Mod gun for the World Shoot. James Ong likes to say Modified guns combine the worst aspects of both Open and Limited into one pistol and I don't think this one is quite that bad, but not far off (Phil Strader may disagree... he shot it after A4 and was either making manaical giggling or whimpering sounds by the end, but he stuck with it and shot all the rounds in the magazine, bleeding thumbs and all) But, there's a good reason we don't shoot Modified guns in Open division here. A flippy .40 with a small scope and 8 less rounds on board is not exactly competitive with a full-up Open setup. Anyway, If the division goes away internationally it will be sad, because it's by far the most interesting pistol engineering challenge out there, and the guys that can get one to run 100% are few and far between. Anyway, it's a fun little sucker, even if it's not a pretty gun or even terribly pleasant to shoot. I had a lot of fun with the ROs at Area 4 since the stage description for the gun-on-table starts specified "muzzle perpendicular with the rear berm". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Ok Shred you have to have a better pic of whatever that is hanging off the end of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Ok Shred you have to have a better pic of whatever that is hanging off the end of the barrel. That's the top-secret Pelton-Technology Hammerheaded Shred-Comp (and the reason it isn't quite as evil as other Mod guns) :D It's kind of funny since that one is aluminum. Last thing you want on a tiny little comp gun is a light comp, right? Except we made a steel one (after a dozen Al versions), and the dot track was a lot worse. After 4000 rounds, the Al is getting burnt through, but we made spares.. screw on a new one and it's off to the Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Cool! I figured it was a big hunk of steel to add some weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Cool! I figured it was a big hunk of steel to add some weight. Nah, Tungsten's where it's at for that. Almost twice as dense as brass. We'll be bolting some of that on too. I think I see a spot under the comp a nice slug would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Be sure to let us see the pix after you give them a good whoopin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I love modified! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hello: You could always make a tungston sleeve to go onto the barrel for more weight up front. You could also take more off the back of the slide to make it fit the box easier. Looks cool to me Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawel Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 is it really going out for good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 is it really going out for good? Don't know, but the tea-leaves point that way. Deleting Modified is on the "agenda" for the World Shoot General Assembly, which in my experience usually means it gets passed one way or another (parliamentary tricks have been played in the past). I don't know the politics there, but it appears they are selling it out as a trade for a 'single stack' division for all the old pharts What's odd is the justifications to get rid of it "Not enough competitors to crown a legitimate World Champion" -- Uh, Revo always has less shooters, and how about the Lady/Junior/Senior/Super Senior World Champions? There's less of them than Mod competitors in several divisions. "Too much work for stats" -- Really? Although I'm not that keen on lots of divisions, we get by with more divisions than they have already I think somebody just doesn't like it for whatever reason and wants to kill it. That sucks. It's not a fast-growing division, but it's a really fun one for the engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hello: You could always make a tungston sleeve to go onto the barrel for more weight up front. You could also take more off the back of the slide to make it fit the box easier. Looks cool to me Thanks, Eric Thanks. I don't think I'd get more rounds in the mag or more room for comp trimming the slide, but I'll probably take a swipe more off just to get some wiggle room. That box is .1mm or so undersize, so it'll fit as-is, but there's no reason not to. I'll probably load some weight onto the frame up front-- with the Al comp, the barrel weight is shifted rearwards enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawel Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 thinking of doing one in case the division stays, any suggestions guys? port? if so how many? or just a comp? or port + comp or no port and no comp just a carry weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashdown Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I sure like Jo Jo's interpretation on the Modified guns. His 2 chamber comp is interesting. I'm guessing he welds it together? Don't know how else it would be built. Looks like it shoots pretty flat on his vids. Good luck at the worlds shred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 thinking of doing one in case the division stays, any suggestions guys? port? if so how many? or just a comp? or port + comp or no port and no comp just a carry weight? First off, pick the frame you plan to use. Second, pick the scope you want to use Third, pick the number of rounds you want on board If you can get all 3 of those in the box, you're 90% of the way there. Those will dictate the barrel+comp length and position within the box. Look at a bunch of pictures of other Mod guns and see what the pluses and minuses of each are. Most all the Mod guns have holes or a comp of some sort. Comps are harder to fit in the box than barrel holes. Get ready to cut nearly everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I wondered about your cryptic comment somewhere to the effect of, "Don't tell the B (or A) shooter excited about beating a GM what I was shooting." Now I get it! Good luck in Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What's odd is the justifications to get rid of it "Not enough competitors to crown a legitimate World Champion" -- Uh, Revo always has less shooters, and how about the Lady/Junior/Senior/Super Senior World Champions? There's less of them than Mod competitors in several divisions. "Too much work for stats" -- Really? Although I'm not that keen on lots of divisions, we get by with more divisions than they have already I think somebody just doesn't like it for whatever reason and wants to kill it. That sucks. It's not a fast-growing division, but it's a really fun one for the engineers. Odd, indeed. I think it is a goofy division, but that (given) reasoning is... weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 They are such fun guns to shoot, good luck in Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I have always found them interesting from the puzzle solving side of things. There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorCistic Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hi modishooters Some of my and my friends modified guns below : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain C. Baer Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Nice pictures, did he do the work himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Here's my Cheely built Modified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hi modishooters Some of my and my friends modified guns below : Cool! How many rounds do those hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorCistic Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 First 2 pics is my Modified, made by czech gunsmith. Other pics are modified guns made by german gunsmith Hans Peter Schaffer. This modified is in own Zdenek Henes ( 2dn place in WS on Bali) My modified hold 20+1, Zdenek´s modified 18-19+1 rnds Jakub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Sitting here in the huge international departure hall in Houston brings me back to a bunch of other fun international trips that havd gone through here... WS Ecuador and a bunch of Columbus Cups.. I also found this pic that might be interesting. Its the lid of my IPSC box detailing the rounds through the mod gun since we built it. Normally I'm not near this anal, but we were worried about the longevity of some of the hacked on parts. A few didn't quite make it go the target 10K life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Good Luck again Shred! Looks like you get to shoot the last Modified match at a WS. Handgun Modified Division will no longer exists as for January 1st, 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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