wooddog Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Thats the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hogue built an "Avenger" which was a 1911 top end that was fixed barrel system for the 1911. Originally, it was only in 45, but I see from the website available in 9mm as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 http://www.getgrip.com/main/whatsnew/avenger.html No mention of a rimfire version. I got the impression from the Front Sight article that it was a prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 http://www.getgrip.com/main/whatsnew/avenger.htmlNo mention of a rimfire version. I got the impression from the Front Sight article that it was a prototype. Thanks for the link. Checked it out. Pretty cool but if I have a .45 or 9mm why would I buy a top end of the same. Does it take the same mags or does it require new ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Midway had it listed (in 22LR) as a 1911 conversion kit a year or so ago. Just said 'coming soon' and ~$400 IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I ordered six of them at the 2002 ('03?) SHOT show. Still waiting. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Theoretically the fixed barrel would allow for greater accuracy and FAR less reciprocating mass for a flatter shooting gun. I'd like to see and shoot one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I would like to shoot one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_fuentes Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Saw them in a gun magazine some years ago and then ran across them at the SHOT Show two or three years ago. The claim is stellar accuracy and almost no recoil. Sounded good until, the price, just under a $1000. I would like to have one, but not that bad. If the price is in the four to five-hundred range...that is more like it. Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_Sorah Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Could you shoot single stack with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Could you shoot single stack with that? No. Absolutely not. "Single stack" is simply a euphemism for John Browning's M1911A1. With that top end it is no longer an M1911A1. The fact that the division's name was officially shortened to just "single stack" was unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Admin note: I merged this topic in with some prior threads on the same stuff (don't fear the search page ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 ...and yes that thumping sound you hear is Mr Browning rolling... Oddly enough here is a thread on new 1911 hogue grips with integrated mag well...and what top end you ask??? http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430...35/m/9671034241 ACK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The article on m1911.org (linked to in the first post on this thread) has updated info and details. Bore is slightly lower. Weight is 3oz heavy (slight bull barrel and sight rail included). And reciprocating mass is 9.78oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hmm, not as light as I thought it would be in the reciprocating parts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 At least they're trying to be innovative. The only real benefit I can see is for the barricade event at Bianchi. No need for a shroud if the "slide" isn't moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Shot it this weekend in Mesa. Really nice and different. First, it ejects brass like you cannot imagine. It's brutal on brass. It's VERY, VERY fast and accurate. One thing I learned is that, while shooting it feels more like a Glock than a 1911. Really interesting actually. It'll be available soon. The Hogue's and crew are beating it up to work the last couple of kinks out of it. Delayed blow back system that is mechanical in the delay rather than some magical "timing" in the cycle of the "slide". Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Precision Designs Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Ok .... I'll bite!!! Although I hate to spend money (that kind of money) for rather expensive components ... if the design loans itself to hold up to "Major" 9 quirks, then it may be something to ponder upon. Quite a few design principles would make this project a worthy beneficiary of scrutiny for Open Major 9. Now, if Neal Hogue is listening or reading this ... just send me one of those uppers in 9mm ... and I will be glad to invest the R&D needed to make this dream into a reality. I do love a challenge such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Precision Designs Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Ok ....I'll bite!!! Although I hate to spend money (that kind of money) for rather expensive components ... if the design loans itself to hold up to "Major" 9 quirks, then it may be something to ponder upon. Quite a few design principles would make this project a worthy beneficiary of scrutiny for Open Major 9. Now, if Neal Hogue is listening or reading this ... just send me one of those uppers in 9mm ... and I will be glad to invest the R&D needed to make this dream into a reality. I do love a challenge such as this. Just went today to the Shot Show in Orlando, fla. While there, I spoke to Aaron Hogue. He showed me a stack of ready to go Avenger uppers ... They are here and ready to go. Orders are being filled. These are in .45 ACP. The .40SW is next. Now let's see how soon we can get 500 of these out there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I think Koenig was playing with a wolf ultramatic but said the hell with it due to reliability issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=120818979 I'll keep my ST's and SV's But for those who like rare and unique... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 There's an old timer gun builder in Hawaii that builds a non moving slide fixed barrel gun. He's an old bulls eye shooter and extreme acuracy is the goal. He gets his slides custom made by Caspain. And unlike the Hogue monstrosity his guns look very good. you can also shoot and play with one and actually buy one. He is at the honolulu gunshows, maybe one of our Hawii friends can get us some pics to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcambre Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 There's an old timer gun builder in Hawaii that builds a non moving slide fixed barrel gun. He's an old bulls eye shooter and extreme acuracy is the goal. He gets his slides custom made by Caspain. And unlike the Hogue monstrosity his guns look very good. you can also shoot and play with one and actually buy one. He is at the honolulu gunshows, maybe one of our Hawii friends can get us some pics to post. A google search for "Ed Masaki dragon gun" gives pictures and videos including this blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierod1 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Need shooting impressions on this Hogue Avenger 45 ACP.Interested in accuracy @ what distance,any functioning issues,ammo(HB or Target) quality of adjustable sights and recoil/muzzle rise-compared to a 1911 45 ACP.Many Thanks Erod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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