Flexmoney Posted October 13, 2004 Author Share Posted October 13, 2004 I thought I mentioned that there was a problem with the first cut and that it had been resolved with the second version... You did, but I can't report on your experiences. I can only report on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Kyle, It's my understanding that you have had a Novak magazine well prototype to test since June, but I guess your schedule must have been rather hectic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Raul, I was giving Tom some time to respond...but, since you feel the need to sound off... I had fully expected to get one of the magwells in time to test-drive it, and then possibly use it in the PSA Shootout. That was in April. From "your understanding", I got the magwell in June? That sounds about right. In June, I was working hot and heavy helping out with THE Buckeye Blast/Ohio Section Match. Sometime after geting the magwell I ran into Tom at a Match (it may have been the Buckeye Blast, I don't recall). He mentioned, in passing, that the magwell might have fit problems. He suggested that a possible fix was to run the Glock frame over some sand-paper to remove some material. I didn't really like the sound of that. Instead of a "drop-in" part, it sounded like it was going to require fitting...and the fitting was to be done to the Glock frame. I didn't want to deface a Glock frame (that I might want to use for Production someday) to test a proto-type magwell. Sometime between then and now, I did a quick trial fit/test...nothing in depth. Sure enough...my mags wouldn't lock in the gun. I sent Tom a message/email, but didn't get a response. I do think he tried to call me as some point, as I (eventualy) found his number on my calledID log...but he left no message on my machine. I took the magwell out to the range another time. I wan't able to get it to work on my gun, nor another...and not with my mags, nor others. So, at this point, that is the extent of my report. The magwell that I have doesn't work. It doesn't allow my mags to click in. If Tom has fixed this, great...I just can't report that he has because I don't have a product that shows those fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Kyle, You know I experienced the same problems that you mentioned with the first prototype I received from Tom back in August and it's interesting that as soon as I experienced the problems I reported it to Tom. At first he was hesitant to change the design but after he received detailed feedback from other testers he changed the design to accommodate the Arredondo and Taylor Freelance magazine extensions. Maybe if you had had the time to test the first design, the second design would have come out sooner since it’s my understanding that you are a well respected Glock competitor in your area and Tom does value your opinion. But I guess those are the breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rack&roll Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 ryucasta, Does the Taylor Freelance and/or the Arredondo mag extentions work with no fitting, to "The Accessories magwell"? TIA. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 As I shoot with Tom and he has been busy of late, I'll pop in to comment. Initial design had some issues, some corrected by Tom, others by testers such as Team Glock, who pointed out a minor mod with the 9mm magazines. All have since been addressed. As to any frame mods, well, not all glocks are made equal, and tolerances vary. Some frames need to have the bottom passed over some sandpaper slightly to remove just a hair of polymer that prevents the magwell - and the mags, from seating that last little bit. I've seen some come in to Tom where the magwell fits perfect first time, no mods. Others need a pass or two and then work fine. There is not, in this world unfortunately, a "one size fits all" that truly fits all due to manufacturing tolerances. Tom values and respects the opinions of all the folks who help evaluate and test his products, and does understand that they are busy and have other things going on in their lives. That's why he has several beta testers. As we all know, what works fine when we sit at home and try it does not always work that way in a match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Rack&Roll, All of the Arredondo base pads and extensions (+5, +3, 0) will work with The Accessories Brass magazine well as long as you are using FML, Scherer or 10 round tubes. As far as Taylor Freelance is concerned they also work just be aware that they are tube specific since they make one version for NFML and another version for FML and Scherer tubes. Hope that helps. http://www.arredondoaccessories.com/A_mag.cfm?#glock http://www.taylorfreelance.com/products/floorplates.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rack&roll Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Raul, Thanks for the info! Does the same hold true for the black aluminum "The Accessories" magwell? Again, TIA! Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Rack&Roll, Unfortunately I can’t provide an answer there since I have never owned nor used a black Aluminum "The Accessories" magazine well. I currently have 3 brass ones of which one is already out to pasture and I'm expecting the other two to follow that one very shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rack&roll Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Raul, Thanks again for the reply. I talked with Matt today at CGR, and he said they were the same. He recommended the brass, which is what I ordered, along with 2 Arredondo +5 (.40) basepads. Hope they work! Thanks again. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Rack&Roll, As long as the tubes that you are using are Glock FML or Scherer it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Unfortunately I can’t provide an answer there since I have never owned nor used a black Aluminum "The Accessories" magazine well. I currently have 3 brass ones of which one is already out to pasture and I'm expecting the other two to follow that one very shortly. What's wrong with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 IMHO, that the magazine well that Tom Novak is now offering is a far better product. For more details refer to my posting on page 4 dated 10/12/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Just finished testing Grams magazine extension pad with Novak's latest design and it works with the FML tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmills Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Anything new on the Novak magwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDGUNNER Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I have a update on our magwells,Our 2nd design magwell will work with the dawson,grams,arredondo,taylor base pads using the glock FML mags (9&40) or the schere tubes. The first design magwells will work with the taylor base pads using FML glock mags,schere tubes,base pads other than these will requier fitting of the magwell to the frame.NFML 9mm mags will not work with any base pad setup with out fitting,we have not had a chance to test with NFML 40 mags yet.The new 2nd design magwells have metal connecting plugs (S/S have brass connector/Alum have alum connectors)The S/S magwells weight 6.5oz and the alum weight 2.3oz with the new plugs. We have quite a few Alum 1st design magwells in stock and we are having a close out sale on them if interested. We also will have a 21 magwell and IDPA magwell comming out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Tom, It's been my experience that the NFML tubes for 9mm and 40S&W will work with your 2nd design if you use the Taylor Freelance extensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Been a few months - Any updates on these magwells? I couldn't find them on the NHO website, and found some listed as out-of-stock for $169 at : http://www2.iwebcenters.com/viewbasket.ivn...agwell+6%2E6+oz I thought the price was reduced? Anyone have them in stock, or is the THE brass well still the way to go? Should I just call Novak? Are the new ones working better now? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I've been using 3 (G17, G34, G35) so far with no problems. I would call Tom directly and ask him who else carries his magazine well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Any hope Tom or anyone else (Beven??) will make a magwell in tungsten?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 looks like the THE brass magwell is still the answer.. even though the stainless one was a better product, they cannot be found... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 I was wanting one that provided the most weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokecloud Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 bob carver (B&, the guy that does the Carver Mounts and modified holsters, has them listed on his websight, though they were kinda pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 bob carver (B&, the guy that does the Carver Mounts and modified holsters, has them listed on his websight, though they were kinda pricey. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think he Had them on his website, both are temp out of stock...been that way for a little while now the bad thing about the brass magwell is that it gets dinged up so easy. if THE made a stainless one it would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I called about the Novak stainless magwells about a week and a half ago. Tom said they would be availible the second half of April. He changed machine shops, he had some issues with the old shop. I'm starting out with a THE brass mag well until I can try out the Novak magwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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