joseywales Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Just can't seem to wordsmith this correctly... -------- START POSITION: Standing with heels on marks, handgun lying unsupported on table with muzzle perpendicular to backstop, chamber empty. For autos - loaded magazine inserted, slide forward, hammer down. For revolvers - loaded & closed cylinder, hammer down. -------- My question is about the revolvers. I'm guessing that to be the same for all competitors the chamber must be empty for everyone, so revolver shooters will have to remove a round to ensure that the chamber is empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Typically revolvers are exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Why not just do unloaded start ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Why not have the cylinder open? Autos rack the slide, revolvers close the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Why not have the cylinder open? Autos rack the slide, revolvers close the cylinder. Hard to get a revolver to lay there with it's guts hanging out wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Let the revos start loaded. They're only shooting against other revos anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseywales Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Why not just do unloaded start ? Unloaded start is certainly an alternative. Just wanted to do something different that we don't use very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin garcia Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I wish you can just use IPSC term 'Condition 2'. But not many of us are familiar with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just can't seem to wordsmith this correctly... -------- START POSITION: Standing with heels on marks, handgun lying unsupported on table with muzzle perpendicular to backstop, chamber empty. For autos - loaded magazine inserted, slide forward, hammer down. For revolvers - loaded & closed cylinder, hammer down. -------- My question is about the revolvers. I'm guessing that to be the same for all competitors the chamber must be empty for everyone, so revolver shooters will have to remove a round to ensure that the chamber is empty? Move "Chamber empty" to the other side of "For Autos," as in "hammer down on an empty chamber." That would seem to solve your problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Typically revolvers are exempt. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapemeister Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) I believe the start position (hangun ready condition) is covered in 8.1.3. Therefore, the cylinder must be closed. Here is what I would write. Start Position: Heels on marks, facing down range. Handgun Ready Condition: Loaded, chamber empty. On table, unsupported, with muzzle pointed at the back stop. Procedure: At the start the shooter will retrieve the gun from the table, and......bla, bla, bla If it's covered in the rule book, often times it's better to leave it out of the stage description. The less wordy, the better. Edit: Since 2011 I guess you've figured it out! Edited January 20, 2013 by grapemiester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The more words you use, the more you will get gamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) I wish you can just use IPSC term 'Condition 2'. But not many of us are familiar with it... theres no such term in ipsc. if ever its used loosely in the range, its not officially acknowledged as a rule. Edited January 28, 2013 by BoyGlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 a 2 year resurrection for a +1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin garcia Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 was younger then, Jeremy. And I might still not be any wiser now. @BoyGlock-You are right it's NOT in IPSC/USPSA rule book. No arguments here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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