Seekins Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 If someone needs a place to ship ammo or guns let me know. We will be driving down and have some extra room for stuff. Option is open until we are full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 If a division is not "recognized", will it still be scored separately, and just not receive any awards? Or would we not even be able to shoot in that division. (thinking of shooting limited) Who else is signed up for limited so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionshooter Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I really want to shoot this one, but promised my daughter I would be home for her 18th birthday. Next year I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmanP Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 30 slugs? Damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 30 slugs? Damn! Stages are almost finished and it won't be anywhere near 30 slugs. Unless you really miss...alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 If a division is not "recognized", will it still be scored separately, and just not receive any awards? Or would we not even be able to shoot in that division. (thinking of shooting limited) Who else is signed up for limited so far? It looks like this will be a open and tactical match only, unless there are many late entrys. Not recognized means no scores, no awards, no division.... the same issue happened at the 2010 MGN in vegas, the heavy metal shooters had to go to limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was among the HM shooters at nationals last year. We where not forced to change divisions, Mr Voigt was kind enough to offer to recognize all divisions even without the required 10 shooters. We decided as a group that it would be lame to crown a national champion with only 3 shooters in the division. I assume that those who have entered under limited and heavy will at least get to compete in tactical as the rules allow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Mr Voigt was kind enough to offer to recognize all divisions even without the required 10 shooters. It would be great if USPSA would make that same offer to the smaller area matches as well. maybe 5 or more at least, per division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Mr Voigt was kind enough to offer to recognize all divisions even without the required 10 shooters. It would be great if USPSA would make that same offer to the smaller area matches as well. maybe 5 or more at least, per division. its up to the match director. limiting total number of shooters to 100ish, then saying 10 or more is needed to reconize the smaller divisions in a regional type match is pretty much discouraging shooters who like the smaller divisions from even signing up... just my .02 jj Edited August 16, 2011 by RiggerJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 its up to the match director. jj No, it is NOT. Per rule 6.2.2 In USPSA sanctioned matches, the minimum number of competitors stipulated in Appendix A2 must compete in each Division for it to be recognized. If there are insufficient competitors in a Division, the Match Director may allow that Division to stand without official USPSA recognition. An Area match is level 3 and therefore 10 competitors must be entered for a division to be recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Then AR state (not sure what level it was) and Nats broke the rules last year. And those are only the ones I know of... You can quote rules all day long, it still remains that it discourages smaller division shooters from attending... JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Mr Voigt was kind enough to offer to recognize all divisions even without the required 10 shooters. It would be great if USPSA would make that same offer to the smaller area matches as well. maybe 5 or more at least, per division. its up to the match director.limiting total number of shooters to 100ish, then saying 10 or more is needed to reconize the smaller divisions in a regional type match is pretty much discouraging shooters who like the smaller divisions from even signing up... just my .02 jj Sorry JJ, but this is incorrect. It's in the rule book that we have to have 10 to recognize. It's not the MD's choice. There is a lot that I'd like to change about the USPSA rule book. Especially after trying to come up with legal stages for this match, and dealing with some of the restrictions imposed. I hope we get to work together on the new USPSA rules. This is one of the issues I'm torn about. I understand the desire to recognize all the divisions and that we need to recognize them before people will invest in equipment to shoot them. But crowning a Division champion among 1, 2, or 3 people is a disservice to the Division champion that competed against 65 other competitors to earn his title. Maybe having a way to designate smaller divisions as categories if participation is too low? Either way, there will not be a fix to this before the A1MG match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Mr Voigt was kind enough to offer to recognize all divisions even without the required 10 shooters. It would be great if USPSA would make that same offer to the smaller area matches as well. maybe 5 or more at least, per division. its up to the match director.limiting total number of shooters to 100ish, then saying 10 or more is needed to reconize the smaller divisions in a regional type match is pretty much discouraging shooters who like the smaller divisions from even signing up... just my .02 jj Sorry JJ, but this is incorrect. It's in the rule book that we have to have 10 to recognize. It's not the MD's choice. There is a lot that I'd like to change about the USPSA rule book. Especially after trying to come up with legal stages for this match, and dealing with some of the restrictions imposed. I hope we get to work together on the new USPSA rules. This is one of the issues I'm torn about. I understand the desire to recognize all the divisions and that we need to recognize them before people will invest in equipment to shoot them. But crowning a Division champion among 1, 2, or 3 people is a disservice to the Division champion that competed against 65 other competitors to earn his title. Maybe having a way to designate smaller divisions as categories if participation is too low? Either way, there will not be a fix to this before the A1MG match. Understand Chuck... its just frustrating. Instead of encouraging the smaller divsions to grow, we seem to be hell bent on fire to discourage them with rule sets, and in some cases, smothering them or plain ol leaving them out... Some years back I got fired up about shooting Modified pistol here in good ol USA. boy was that a mistake...I do still have a Modified pistol thou... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkie Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I will be there. Quick question, is there any activities for family in the area? Sorry I'm a family man. If not it would be nice to know. Would save me from hearing my wife tell me she should have stayed home Any help would be appreciated, regardless I will be there, can't wait. Thanks There are things to do in Meridian/Boise area. Water Park, Mall, Cabelas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 30 slugs? Damn! Stages are almost finished and it won't be anywhere near 30 slugs. Unless you really miss...alot. Chuck.. if you have slugs on paper.. willit be one slug anywhere is netrualized.. or same as pistol/rifle? Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 There have been no shortage of limited shooters in any of the other 3 gun matches I have been fortunate enough to make it to this year. Why would this match be any different? I guess I better check and see how many limited shooters have signed up for nationals this year as well. Chuck, as hard as it is for me to not post a sarcastic response to some of the things in this thread, I do know that you are trying to do your best for the shooters in your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 30 slugs? Damn! Stages are almost finished and it won't be anywhere near 30 slugs. Unless you really miss...alot. Chuck.. if you have slugs on paper.. willit be one slug anywhere is netrualized.. or same as pistol/rifle? Thanks.. Haven't decided for sure. For now I would plan on regular neutralization, 1 A/B or 2 anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serevince Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Who do I need to email about switching divisions? I'll roll from tac-op to limited. I can tell everyone I finished 10th at the Area 1 Championship! Woot! Thanks Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Lohof Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Is there a competitor list anywhere. I can't remember if I entered on not. Thanks, Dusty Edited September 9, 2011 by Dustin Lohof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 The MDs email addess is evanskuo@yahoo.com. He should be able to point you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bore Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Ive already rolled from Limited to TAC scope due to lack of shooters, but I'm going to see how well I'll place still shooting irons..... How is squadding being handled? I need to squad with my ride. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Hi guys, Sorry, have been away for a bit. Squadding will be done on Sat morning at check-in. There will be a squad sign in sheet with each RO's name at the top. First-come-first-served. If you get there first, you can sign your buddies up as well. I think we're shooting for 10 per squad to keep things moving. Dustin, you registered on 6/30/2011 for Open Div / Sr. Look forward to seeing you all in Oct. Tell the mice to quit playing with matches, and maybe I'll have a chance to finalize the stages and get them posted. Oh yeah, and maybe do some logistical prep for the match... Speaking of which, anybody have a good scoresheet for Time Plus? EzWin ver4.whatever doesn't do Time Plus score sheets. Might save me some time for other things that need done... thanks! if questions, shoot me an email. We've had a couple of cancellations, so filoing those slots by going down the wait list in the order they were received. Edited September 10, 2011 by 2MoreChains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'll PM you a score sheet tonight that I made up for the Northwest Multigun Challenge to work with EzWin. It uses the same order and wording as the scoring program and worked well. If you want I can change the match name on the top and convert to PDF before I send it. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriav Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Is the match full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I'll PM you a score sheet tonight that I made up for the Northwest Multigun Challenge to work with EzWin. It uses the same order and wording as the scoring program and worked well. If you want I can change the match name on the top and convert to PDF before I send it. Doug Doug, very kind of you. PM replied to. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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