Will_M Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Anyone know what's involved with welding up the Gen 1 Caspian frames? Where exactly are they weak? Also, does anyone have a particular person they'd recommend sending one to on-the-cheap? Is this something a normal welder could do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Price depends on the difficulty of the welding that's required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Is the one you have broken? I shot a 1st gen open gun for 10 years and its still going strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdgun Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The only one that comes to mind is EGW. They do nice work on Caspian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Burtchell Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Jim is one of our forum members: Jim Anglin Sailors Custom Pistols 4760 n 17th st. Omaha Ne 68110 402 451 0797 Edited December 15, 2010 by Paul Burtchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Jim is one of our forum members: Jim Anglin Sailors Custom Pistols 4760 n 17th st. Omaha Ne 68110 402 451 0797 Jim knows his way around the Caspian for sure....As well as just about anything else you will ever run across. I have one of his guns and it is a really nice piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The only one that comes to mind is EGW. They do nice work on Caspian I don't think EGW is doing any gun work any more. They have been referring to one of their former employees, also in Pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdgun Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The only one that comes to mind is EGW. They do nice work on Caspian I don't think EGW is doing any gun work any more. They have been referring to one of their former employees, also in Pa. That would be too bad, they used to do some real nice work. You know Simion has had a lot of work done by them, on Caspian and STI as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The only one that comes to mind is EGW. They do nice work on Caspian I don't think EGW is doing any gun work any more. They have been referring to one of their former employees, also in Pa. George is referring work to Jim Milks, Innovative Custom Guns. Jim worked with George for a very long time and does some amazing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Call gary at caspian and ask him what they suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 That'll be my next move. I was just told that the gen 1 hi-cap frames would "need welding." I'll update this whenever I get a price quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Anyone know what's involved with welding up the Gen 1 Caspian frames? Where exactly are they weak? Also, does anyone have a particular person they'd recommend sending one to on-the-cheap? Is this something a normal welder could do? The Gen 1 Caspian Hi-Caps were cracking in a weird place. Every crack that I saw was behind the mid-point of the trigger in a horizontal line extending straight to the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twikster Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 No,only a gunsmith-specialist can be trusted to weld on guns. It requires heat sinks, heat control gel, and a very, very gentle foot on the heat-pedal,and a very experienced hand on the torch. The crack has to be ground out in a "v" trough. Some say that you have to drill out the end of the crack, to stop it from "running" further. Then the frame has to be put into normalizing, heat treatment oven, for a time period suitable to the metal it is made of. The right welding rod and gas have to be used, too. The fee is likely to be nearly as high as a new frame, if it's all done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjanglin Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 If the frame is not cracked, it may not need to be messed with,Id call Gary at Caspian and give hime the serial number of the frame and go with his recommendations,nothing is on the cheap when welding on guns. Jim/Pa Sailors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 I don't actually have the frame yet, but Foster has some blemished Gen 1 frames lying around for pretty cheap. I thought it would be a great deal, but as I've found out, "nothing is on the cheap when welding on guns." When I spoke to Gary at Caspian he said they'd need to be welded. Well there goes that fun project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) There's still alot of Gen 1 Caspians running around that never cracked. Its a gamble. I'm sure someone will take it off your hands if you decide against it, and you have already bought it. Edited December 24, 2010 by sfinney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjanglin Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I don't actually have the frame yet, but Foster has some blemished Gen 1 frames lying around for pretty cheap. I thought it would be a great deal, but as I've found out, "nothing is on the cheap when welding on guns." When I spoke to Gary at Caspian he said they'd need to be welded. Well there goes that fun project. I might be interested in your GEN 1 frame, I shoot three of them 2 have not been cracked and have years of use on them, the limited gun I shoot is got 80,000 plus on the frame. Jim/Pa Sailors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 Well since several people have mentioned they don't have any problems with their Gen1 frames, I'm starting to lean towards making this project a reality again. It's going to be a 9 minor steel gun if I do decide to proceed. Since 9 minor is a relatively low-stress set up on a gun, I figure that would be even easier on it. What exactly is causing these breaks? Is it the slide slamming into the frame? The frame torquing during recoil? -Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I don't actually have the frame yet, but Foster has some blemished Gen 1 frames lying around for pretty cheap. I thought it would be a great deal, but as I've found out, "nothing is on the cheap when welding on guns." When I spoke to Gary at Caspian he said they'd need to be welded. Well there goes that fun project. is that one of the 35 buck specials? I just saw one, and rough is a understatement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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