900_DRIVER Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have some once fired S&B (Sellior&Belloit) brass. (9MM) Some one told me they have a different primer pocket and it doesnt look like the other brass i have. Should i try and reform it ( i think that is called swaging ) is it a pain or should i try it? i have a rock chucker so would i need some special equip.? only about 200 pcs of brass so maybe its not worth the effort. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have never had a problem with S&B brass. I use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Circular file for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTinVA Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 To me it's not worth messing with. I do like the fact that it has a lot of red or sometimes green primer sealant, makes it easy to spot and cull from the brass pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouttime Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have about 1500 pieces, and probably have more later, would it be worth swaging this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I bought this http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=253550 Chucked it up in a drill and get comfortable. Takes less than a second to get the crimp or tight edges to go away. I don't mess with S&B but I use it on WCC as I have a source for the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps +100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps Looked like brass to me though. Uncanny ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed... I just loaded a bunch in 38special. It was a pain with FED primers. Winchester were no problem. i think the FED were a little wider. My 686 trigger hasnt been lightened, so it will work with the Win's. I'll trade off or shoot the S&P at a lost brass match and hopefully the next batch I buy wont have that many S&B's or I'll just ream the pockets as suggested.. i didnt check them with a magnet yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 S&W is excellent brass but has "tight" primer pockets which require careful primer seating. I believe it is due to the sharp leading edge of the primer pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Scrap for me. Especially the 40s. I've buckled pressure rings on once fired cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I have only used the 9mm and 45 ACP brass by S&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockOp Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I am loading S&B 9mm with no problems or extra work. I have had problems with WCC even when I re-swage the pocket. Go figure :-) Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockOp Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) I am loading S&B 9mm with no problems or extra work. I have had problems with WCC even when I re-swage the pocket. Go figure :-) Regards Mike Double post, sorry can't figure out how to delete it. Edited December 13, 2010 by GlockOp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinosaurMikeGolf Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps +100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though. If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case. Edited December 18, 2010 by DinosaurMikeGolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps +100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though. If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case. Really? Never would have figured that out ....Ferrous and non ferrous metals ya know.... It's all good, just yanking your chain new guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 For the record S&B Brass coated steel cases cost me a class win at the Gator. Use the magnet and anything that sticks is bad! No fooling, kidding, etc. I am still loading S&B non steel brass to 9 major and shooting it once and letting it go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinosaurMikeGolf Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it. It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT: It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers. Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings. Hope this helps +100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though. If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case. Really? Never would have figured that out ....Ferrous and non ferrous metals ya know.... It's all good, just yanking your chain new guy! No problemo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Texas Granny Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Glad I found this. A guy shoots the same day I do and he shoots S&B and leaves it on the ground and when I asked why he said you couldn't reload it. Guess it will go into the bucket to recycle as scrap. Edited October 21, 2011 by West Texas Granny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi333 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Primer pockets are definitely a bit tight, but never have any real problems loading S&B range pickups in my LNL AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwana Six-Gun Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I have used some of the S & B in .45 with few problems, but the 9MM really sucks. The .45 I leave on the range as I shoot it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexican Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed... Same for me. I just love it when I get my dillon jammed up because there's a half-seated primer in a s&b case. I'm stubborn and refuse to deal with it purely because of those fond memories. I have pounds of that stuff I'll put up in the freebie section eventually (I'll be sure to run a magnet through it first). off topic, but I remember (10 years ago) factory S&B having a very distinct sweet-smelling powder mix, kinda like the smell of Unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmysterious Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 It works fine for me, I reload the 9mm all the time. Yeah, the pockets are tight but I've never had any Winchester primers get stuck. Send it my way if you don't want it. The only brass I always toss out is CBC and AMERC, that stuff is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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