S&B brass

[900_DRIVER]

I have some once fired S&B (Sellior&Belloit) brass. (9MM) Some one told me they have a different primer pocket and it doesnt look like the other brass i have.

Should i try and reform it ( i think that is called swaging )

is it a pain or should i try it? i have a rock chucker so would i need some special equip.?

only about 200 pcs of brass so maybe its not worth the effort.

thanks

[Sarge]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

[blue]

I have never had a problem with S&B brass. I use it

[Jman]

Circular file for me.

[BigTinVA]

To me it's not worth messing with. I do like the fact that it has a lot of red or sometimes green primer sealant, makes it easy to spot and cull from the brass pile.

[Bouttime]

I have about 1500 pieces, and probably have more later, would it be worth swaging this?

[Sarge]

I bought this

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=253550

Chucked it up in a drill and get comfortable. Takes less than a second to get the crimp or tight edges to go away. I don't mess with S&B but I use it on WCC as I have a source for the stuff.

[GrumpyOne]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

+100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though.

[lugnut]

Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed...

[Sarge]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

Looked like brass to me though.

Uncanny ain't it?

[DWFAN]

Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed...

I just loaded a bunch in 38special. It was a pain with FED primers. Winchester were no problem. i think the FED were a little wider. My 686 trigger hasnt been lightened, so it will work with the Win's. I'll trade off or shoot the S&P at a lost brass match and hopefully the next batch I buy wont have that many S&B's or I'll just ream the pockets as suggested.. i didnt check them with a magnet yet.

[TonyT]

S&W is excellent brass but has "tight" primer pockets which require careful primer seating. I believe it is due to the sharp leading edge of the primer pocket.

[shooterready]

Scrap for me. Especially the 40s. I've buckled pressure rings on once fired cases.

[TonyT]

I have only used the 9mm and 45 ACP brass by S&B.

[GlockOp]

I am loading S&B 9mm with no problems or extra work. I have had problems with WCC even when I re-swage the pocket. Go figure :-)

Regards

Mike

[GlockOp]

I am loading S&B 9mm with no problems or extra work. I have had problems with WCC even when I re-swage the pocket. Go figure :-)

Regards

Mike

Double post, sorry can't figure out how to delete it.

Edited December 13, 2010 by GlockOp

[DinosaurMikeGolf]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

+100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though.

If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case.

Edited December 18, 2010 by DinosaurMikeGolf

[GrumpyOne]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

+100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though.

If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case.

Really? Never would have figured that out ....Ferrous and non ferrous metals ya know....

It's all good, just yanking your chain new guy!

[CocoBolo]

For the record S&B Brass coated steel cases cost me a class win at the Gator. Use the magnet and anything that sticks is bad!

No fooling, kidding, etc. I am still loading S&B non steel brass to 9 major and shooting it once and letting it go!

[DinosaurMikeGolf]

For only 200 I would pitch it. I used to mess with S&B but I eventually got enough good brass collected that now I just throw it away. Here is what I know about it.

It is pretty good brass quality wise BUT:

It has tight primer pockets so you need to ream or swage it or it will eat primers.

Check it with a magnet. S&B is very good at making steel casings look just like brass casings.

Hope this helps

+100 about checking with a magnet. I just sorted about 500 9mm cases this afternoon, stuck a big speaker magnet in the bucket, ended up pulling about 200 S&B's out cause they stuck to the magnet. Looked like brass to me though.

If it sticks to a magnet, then it has a brass venier over the steel case.

Really? Never would have figured that out ....Ferrous and non ferrous metals ya know....

It's all good, just yanking your chain new guy!

No problemo!

[West Texas Granny]

Glad I found this. A guy shoots the same day I do and he shoots S&B and leaves it on the ground and when I asked why he said you couldn't reload it. Guess it will go into the bucket to recycle as scrap.

Edited October 21, 2011 by West Texas Granny

[levi333]

Primer pockets are definitely a bit tight, but never have any real problems loading S&B range pickups in my LNL AP.

[Bwana Six-Gun]

I have used some of the S & B in .45 with few problems, but the 9MM really sucks. The .45 I leave on the range as I shoot it up.

[rexican]

Personally... I HATE that brass. I can't for life of me understand how some people have no issues seating primers in that brass and yet whenever one of them slips thru the cracks on me, I end with a primer half inserted or crushed...

Same for me. I just love it when I get my dillon jammed up because there's a half-seated primer in a s&b case.

I'm stubborn and refuse to deal with it purely because of those fond memories. I have pounds of that stuff I'll put up in the freebie section eventually (I'll be sure to run a magnet through it first).

off topic, but I remember (10 years ago) factory S&B having a very distinct sweet-smelling powder mix, kinda like the smell of Unique.

[bobmysterious]

It works fine for me, I reload the 9mm all the time. Yeah, the pockets are tight but I've never had any Winchester primers get stuck. Send it my way if you don't want it. The only brass I always toss out is CBC and AMERC, that stuff is garbage.