Punkin Chunker

Although it probably shouldn't matter, I wonder how the PE was awarded to them -- after an explanation of what they had done and an explanation of how to avoid the PE, or as a 'gotcha' to show they weren't such hot shooters after all? Were they shooters who strolled in off the street, or shooters invited by a member? For the first -- after the same courtesy that would be given to anyone not familiar with the sport, PEs where appropriate, an FTDR for flagrant 'in your face' violation, and 'DQ/pack your toys' is in the same rule for unsportsmanlike conduct. For the second, an FTDR and a sidebar with their host about discussing sportsmanship with them, and if that doesn't work -- they obviously would rather be shooting their own sport, and should immediately be given the opportunity to do so -- somewhere else.

The analogy had nothing to do with the rationale for the existence of the rule, just a parallel situation of violators making excuses in the face of enforcement. Of course hunting is totally different from IDPA -- you forgot to mention badges, deputized law enforcement officers, fines, prison time, flashing blue lights, etc. ad nauseum. But it was an analogy, not a direct comparison. And is still valid. Perhaps you missed the point I made about new shooters; they generally get a pass on the mag capacity technicalities at local matches. When they get hooked on the sport and want to get beyond their night-stand equipment inventory, they learn more about the rules (or have talked to seasoned competitors, such as yourself) and begin to bring their equipment into compliance. Which includes all magazines having the same capacity, if they are shooting a single-stack mag. Your idea about magazine checks might not be a bad idea. I recall a match in which a person I consider to be a fairly seasoned shooter loaded up for CDP on one stage, threw a Mogadishu into three targets, and was at slide lock for reload. No big deal. On the next stage, he loaded up, put two into each of three targets, missed one on a steel, made it up, and, yep -- slide lock for reload at a very convenient place. No one caught it, I don't make calls from the peanut gallery and didn't waste time mumbling in the throng. But it still happened. The discussion was only about the technicality of the rule, which exists regardless of anyone's personal commitment to it. Here are a couple of links for you to make your case about magazine capacities and whether they are rational rules, or should be changed: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=138327&hl=tiger team&st=0 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=139350&hl=idpa rules&st=0

Yes, this is the new shooter squad. Why do you ask?

Since the WSB doesn't say sit IN the chair, couldn't you sit on the top of the back? Or if it was a folding chair, couldn't you fold it and lean back to sit on the top edge while remaining in a nearly standing position?

'Cause the dinosaurs haven't discovered salt yet.

147 Rainier TMP / 3.8 W231 / 1.135" / 880 ft/sec / pf 129

Zombies would never attack Chuck Norris -- they know that no matter how dead they are, Chuck can make them even deader. The whole iceberg story was made up. Actually, Chuck Norris was out for a swim and the captain of the Titanic decided to play chicken.

But since a curve is a line segment with an infinite number of angles . . .

In almost every instance where antivenom has been administered in the South, at some point the following words have been heard: "It just looks like a (insert name of venomous snake), that's nature's way of protectin' itself." - or - "He'll run -- he's more scared of you than you are of him." edited to add "I forget -- is it yellow on black, or yellow on red?" Side note - neighbor's dog (70 poundish pit) got bit on the lip by a coral snake last month. Gone in 15 minutes.

'Cause that's the best place to keep Patrón. Seems that the refrigerator would be a bad place -- most refrigerators are exposed in the kitchen, so if you want to go to the Tactical Home Defense Ninja mode (not to be confused with the Mall Ninja mode), you have to break cover. Not good unless you are wearing tile-pattern camo. Better to put a hollowed-out stack of reading mags next to the toilet, and hide your blaster inside.

'Cause that's the best place to keep Patrón.

You're right -- my bad. Went back and re-looked at 10.5.3. It isn't just 'dropped', it's, 'drops his handgun or causes it to fall, loaded or not.' Concede the point.

Now i still say DQ .... But if it were an aileron roll, I would agree it's a little more grey http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=139194&pid=1567005&st=0entry1567005 Aileron roll, or barrel roll -- with either one, done perfectly, the muzzle would remain oriented downrange. Since the gun wasn't 'dropped' (to drop the gun, the shooter would have to have had positive control to begin with), what rule would the shooter be DQed under?

I like it. What's cool too is the sharing of it -- it's kinda like ripples in a pond. Thanks. I think check-out lines are one of those 'prisms of humanity' that you come across. Where people are channelled into narrow and scripted interactions, and if you make the effort, you can mentally step back and watch peoples' personalities pinball off of each other. It seems that most seem to try to maintain their bubble and hurry on, there are a few that cannot help but leave sore and raw spots as they scrape through, and there are a few that cannot help but spread sunshine. I heard about the Eugene parking meter Samaritan -- it definitely fell into the YGTBSM department!

Next step would be to get a chrono and find out what your loads are doing power wise. Adjusting the charge without knowing your velocity in an effort to achieve 'snap' sounds like a step-by-step approach to overcharge. If you're making power, but want more snap you might need to consider different powder or different bullets. I've found clays and 230 RN in .45 to be a fairly soft-shooting load while still making PF. It's already pushing the limit for charge weight, so trying to make it snappier with more powder would be a bad idea.

Actually, the rule book states in multiple places that the same capacity magazine must be used throughout the match. And I SO wanted not to open that can-o-worms. It's true; although beginning shooters at local matches generally get a pass. The phrase "throughout the match" also precludes running one stage with all 7 round mags, and switching to all 8 round mags for the next stage. The rule book is pretty clear on this point. In response to the argument that mixed capacity mags were okay if all were loaded to the same limit, I pose the question -- what do you think would happen if you were hunting in a state with wildlife regulations that said only 5 round magazines were allowed, and you told the game warden who stopped you that your 20 round magazine was okay, because you'd only loaded it to 5 rounds?

Wasn't my first gun, technically, but about the first I shot with any regular intent at precision -- My Grandpa came home from World War One and bought a Remington Model 12 pump .22 for a silver dollar that had a couple of bullets lodged in the barrel. He worked on it, and got the bullets clear. My Dad and uncle learned to shoot with that .22, as did my brother, some cousins, and I. When Dad passed away, my brother and I divvied up his guns. The old Model 12 was one of them, but wasn't very serviceable -- the barrel was pretty well shot out. I took the old pump, and my brother took a .22 auto I'd given Dad a while back to replace the pump. I got a gunsmith to bore out the barrel and put in a stainless steel liner, and adjust the headspace -- now it's a tackdriver and once again does guard duty against opossums and raccoons, harvests rabbits and squirrels, and my grandkids have a great time with it out back.

You look at a pepper shaker, and wonder how many grains you're putting on your eggs.

If it's a verbology thing ('causes' vice 'allows'), then we can fancy up the verbology: Yes, the shooter 'allowed' the gun's muzzle to break the 180. The shooter did so by imparting a moving force on the gun without imposing sufficient precautionary restraint to prevent a foreseeable consequence of the gun's movement. The failure to impose sufficient precautionary restraint was what 'allowed' the uncotrolled movement of the gun, which resulted in the muzzle breaking the 180. DQ.

Re the return rod -- no, it isn't necessary with the springs, but . . . I keep mine on. It provides a mechanical failsafe to ensure the charge bar returns; if for any reason the bar hangs up and the springs don't provide enough force to return the bar, the mechanical force from the rod makes double-darned sure the bar resets.

Brass cleaning is simple. Start by pouring 3 ounces of bourbon into the shooter. Repeat until the brass looks clean enough.

Maybe the mask was the only thing that was different from the way she usually dresses . . .

Make it a general rule to . . . . . . drag a cart from the parking lot back to the store when you go in (especially if the cart has been left in a handicap spot). . . . be firm in the right, generous in victory, and noble in defeat. . . . let the out-of-towner merge. . . . try to be the point at which someone's lousy day turned around.

Doesn't it get hot up in the attic?

Never mind.