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Forum members @zzt abd @clw42 commented in another thread that they were able to easily modify an Everglades MRH holster to fit Cheely grips with minimal effort; about 5 minutes of work or less with fine grit sand paper.

Awesome. I'm planning on doing the same; saw yours and was hoping you'd chime in to say it was done using a regular profile comp since they're $100 cheaper, hehe.

Precision Delta shows plenty of bullet sizes/weights as in stock on their website.

@YellowShooter, did you use a full-profile Binary 3-Port comp, or the regular profile one? I like how the tri-top extends across the entire comp and the how the lines at the bottom of the comp flow into the frame.

Just got my recent order from Powder Valley placed in early April. 6x 8LB jugs; lot number 021120 314. I believe previous know-slow batches ranged from October to January manufacture dates with lot number ending in 514.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. Looking forward to checking out some of these matches, still working on setting up my reloading station and acquiring an open gun for the time being while the pandemic plays out.

Thanks, I appreciate the observations!

I bet! Enjoy in good health!

The Dillon was naturally a top choice; they've been known to the world as the best presses money could buy for a long time now. I'm absolutely new to reloading, so I have no brand loyalties and simply was looking for the best machine for my money. My research lead me to believe that the Dillon falls short of that title now that Mark 7 is making presses of their own. If I could buy an RL1100 or RL1050 for around $1000, I probably would have went Dillon to save some money. However, as priced, for me it is no-contest and I chose to go with the Mark 7. I don't have my Evolution in hand yet, and I've never owned a Dillon RL1050/RL1100 myself, so it is important to emphasize that my choice was based solely off internet research and browsing the opinions of actual press owners. It is also worth noting that my needs and particular plans may differ from that of others, which would change the value proposition of either press drastically. See my long post about halfway down the page in this thread for further details: https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/271071-mark-7-evolution-general-discussion/page/9/?tab=comments#comment-3170395

Be aware that "Karl Bibb's Reloading" on Facebook will not sell you a bullet feeder that utilizes a ramp to flip bullets who's orientation is not correct, like you are used to on the MBF. This is because DAA came down on him for that when he was selling something similar to AmmoMike83's original design. He now sells an alternative design, which utilizes two bullet drop holes; one that drops bullets in the correct orientation down to your press like a traditional bullet feeder would, and another that drops incorrectly oriented bullets into a tray that you will have to manually put back into the bullet feeder for another go-around. This design that utilizes two holes is available on Thingiverse if you'd like to print your own. You can still find the original AmmoMike83 ramped bullet feeder design on Thingiverse as well. This is the one I prefer, because it avoids the need to replace the incorrectly oriented bullets back into the feeder. Despite AmmoMike83 getting cease-and-desist'd by DAA and taking down all his .STL's, it's all there on Thingiverse and has been made available by other users who had the .STL's. If you search for "bullet feeder mods", you'll find what you're looking for. As far as durability/longevity goes, that will depend on how optimally setup/tuned the printer was, the material used (PLA vs PETG, etc.), and the amount of fill used. It takes a little less than half a roll of material (rolls are typically 1kg) to print a bullet feeder. A high quality roll of PLA costs $20-$25, and a high quality roll of PETG costs $25-$30. There are two models of motor that people typically choose from, they range from $15 to $40. Popular budget-level printers like the Ender 3 start at $250 and go up from there. I have a Mark 7 Evolution on order and intend on printing my own case and bullet feeders. I never owned a 3D printer and knew nothing about them, but decided this was as good an excuse as any to order one and familiarize myself with 3D printing; I have a feeling its going to come in handy for many other things down the line and be just as rewarding as reloading will be. So, I bought a Prusa i3 MK3S to go along with the Mark 7 and look forward to getting into both hobbies. Once I get my press and 3D printer in, I plan on making a thread detailing my process and lessons learned as far getting everything printed, setup, tuned, etc.

What a SCORE! Enjoy in good health and put that thing to good use!

I just ordered a Mark 7 Evolution last week. The presses are made to order; current lead time for manufacturing + testing is ~1 week. My order was placed near the end of the day on April 13th and scheduled for shipment on April 22nd. Im told that is a conservative estimate, and in all likelihood it will be sent out even sooner.

@mikey_golds They have a less expensive one coming out this summer. Estimated availability is June/July timeframe. Ultimate Reloader has a video of the new unit in action, check it out.

Something is better than nothing! Do you have a code you can share? Or is this something that they run on holidays, etc.?

No problem, glad it provided some insight. Do keep in mind that the negligible price difference between the two presses in my cost-breakdown widens substantially if you: - Opt to buy a ready made case feeder for the Mark 7 Evolution vs. 3D printing your own (+$300 to the price difference) - Opt to hand-load your primer tubes with the Dillon instead of buying an automated primer tube loader (+$200 to the price difference) - Opt to use the included Dillon dies that come with the RL1100 vs. assembling your own set from other companies (+$300 to the price difference) Case feeders arn't cheap. Like bullet feeders, they are quite inexpensive and simple to make, but command incredibly high profit margins. So if you're not up for 3D printing your own, the fact that the Dillon comes with one included becomes a significant advantage in terms of cost. With the Mark 7 Evolution, you can't really save any money by going with a non-automated priming system; infact, for some strange reason, the "standard priming" system costs $50 more than their upcoming automated system. However, with the Dillon, if you want the cheapest priming option possible, you can just hand-load the included primer tubes instead of purchasing an additional automated tube loader such the DAA PRIMER-PRO ($199) or Dillon RF100 ($379.99). The RL1100 is advertised as coming with a die set. I'm not sure how many or what dies you get in that set, but personally I know I'd opt to assemble my own set of dies from MA, FW, Redding, etc. over using the Dillon dies anyhow, so this didn't really make a difference to me. I did edit my previous post to include this information though, which it did not contain originally.

Hey @HOGRIDER, good questions man! I went through similar deliberations myself and would be happy to share why I ended up making the choices I did. I'll preface all of this with these two important acknowledgements: I am completely new to USPSA & competition shooting in general; I am also completely new to reloading as well. From my time spent in the military, I know that I enjoy shooting enough to where I'm comfortable buying into the sport & reloading at not-so-entry-level price points off the bat, despite that being of questionable advisability to someone as new as I am to all this. So, take what I have to say with a grain of salt, because you definitely have more personal experience and perspective than I do! I too was thinking of adding in the standard priming system if it wasn't going to be too much additional cost. When I asked Joe @ Lyman how much it would be to add it, he quoted me $549.95. I was quite surprised at this number, as it is more than what their upcoming Oscillating Automated Primer Collator is going to MSRP for ($499). I plan on shooting USPSA Open and do not have a gun yet; I intend to purchase a Phoenix Trinity Honcho if they run another "+2 free barrels" holiday sale by July 4th, otherwise I'm just going to be going with a full custom build by one of the reputed builders recommended on these forums. So, I'm in no rush and can wait until the new automated primer collator is released since I don't even have a gun in hand yet to load-test with anyway. Thus, getting a standard priming system to hold me over for the time being isn't really necessary in my case. A couple Brian Enos forum members that have used both the Mark 7 mechanical powder measure and the Hornady AP powder measure kit have commented that they are equally as accurate, which is what convinced me to choose it over the Mark 7 at 1/3 the price. I couldn't find any specific comparisons to the Dillon powder measure, but it appears that satisfaction among Hornady AP powder measure users is very high in general. See this thread here for more details: https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/283822-hornady-ap-powder-measure-kit-vs-mark-7-powder-measure/ For case feeders, it appears you have the following options available to you: - Mark 7 case feeder (modified/slightly improved Hornady case feeder) - Hornady case feeder - Dillon case feeder - Feedinator case feeder - 3D printed case feeder Multiple users on this forum have expressed dissatisfaction with the Mark 7 / Hornady case feeders, some citing a varying degree of success with improving reliability/jams by adding a particular 3D printed part. Some have said that adding the part alleviated their issues, and some say that even with the part they still experience frequent jams. Being that I purchased a 3D printer already to print my own bullet feeder instead of dropping $470 on a MBF, printing myself a case feeder was just the most logical choice by extension, since the sunk cost of the 3D printer was already going to be made regardless. I appreciate smooth, beautifully built, excellent quality, high functioning machines and simply feel that the RL1100 is inferior to the Mark 7 Evolution, despite the fact that either would be more than enough for me. I bought it because I wanted something that would be a joy to use, not because I needed it; truthfully, I probably wouldn't need anything more than a Dillon 650. The RL1100 is definitely less expensive than a Mark 7 Evolution to a certain degree, but personally, I don't consider it cheaper by enough to justify the step down in terms of functionality/capacity (Mark 7's 10 stations vs the Dillon's 6 stations) and construction/material quality (Mark 7 being fully CNC'd, while the Dillon is largely cast). I'd rather go with Mark 7's ground-up design than Dillon's latest edition of a platform originally created in the 80's, despite how long it's been heralded as the "golden standard" of presses in the past. Mark 7 also offered me a 10% veteran discount; I'm not sure whether Dillon offers a military discount. It's also worth noting that RL1100's seem to be going through an absolute shitshow of backorders and shipping delays right now, with multiple users reporting less-than-stellar customer service experiences as of late. I know Mark 7 went through something similar when they first came out, but machines are currently stocked/ready to ship and I've had nothing but stellar customer service with Mark 7 thus far. My particular cost-comparison break down looks like this: Mark 7 Evolution (assuming 10% military discount on Mark 7 products): - Mark 7 Evolution Press ($1709.95) - Mark 7 Oscillating Automated Primer Collator ($449.10) - Hornady AP Powder Measure Kit ($124.38) - $50 worth of materials to print my own case feeder - $50 worth of materials to print my own bullet feeder - $100 budgeted towards anticipating the need to buy miscellaneous auxiliary parts to mount/attach my 3D printed feeders to the press Total before shipping/taxes = $2483.43 Dillon RL1100 (assuming no military discount): - Dillon RL1100 Press ($1999.99) - DAA PRIMER-PRO primer tube filler ($199) - $50 worth of materials to print my own bullet feeder - $50 budgeted towards anticipating the need to buy miscellaneous auxiliary parts to mount/attach my 3D printed feeder to the press Total before shipping/taxes = $2298.99 The Dillon comes with a set of dies included, the Mark 7 does not unless you add $299.95. This didn't make a difference for me because I would want to purchase my own set of individual dies instead of using the Dillon ones. I suppose I could re-sell them and subtract that $ from the total cost, but I'm not sure which dies are included so I can't speak to their total resale value. I asked Joe which dies come with the Mark 7 "optimized die pack" and his response was: "For the pistol dies you will get one each of the following; Mighty Armory Universal Decap, Mighty Armory Universal Hold Down Die, Mighty Armory Carbide sizing die, Lee case flare die, Redding micrometer adjust seat die, Redding Micrometer adjust crimp die. Rifle will add in Redding National Match Die set." (NOTE: Double check this at your time of purchase, it may change as the Lyman Pro Series Stainless dies become available) I didn't include it in the total, but if I went with a Dillon, I'd also budget an additional $100 to $200 towards future 3rd party aftermarket upgrades to ensure that the press is running as smoothly and trouble free as possible, since this seems to be necessary for nearly all previous Dillon presses to date if you want to achieve the best possible performance. My perception is that the Mark 7 Evolution is a far superior machine; the Dillon ends up being nowhere near less expensive enough for me to even remotely consider it over the Evolution. Plus, I'd much rather not deal with primer tubes, so that's a big advantage awarded to the Mark 7. Hope some of that info is helpful!

Just wanted to post this here in case anyone else finds themselves in the same boat and would prefer to purchase a bare Mark 7 Evolution press at a lower price-point than the default configuration on the website: - A Mark 7 Evolution WITHOUT case feeder, mechanical powder measure, and standard priming system costs $1899.95 + shipping. (I opted for this bare bones configuration to save some money since I'm planning on purchasing their Oscillated Automated Primer Collator when it is released this summer, 3D printing my own case feeder, and installing a Hornady powder measure kit from MidSouth which is rougly 1/3 the price of the Mark 7 powder measure) - Mark 7/Lyman will discount their products 10% for military service members (active duty, veteran, etc.) There isn't an option to buy a bare system or receive a military discount on their website, but if you email Mr. Joseph Angelo at joea@lymanproducts.com, he will get you taken care of. Thanks much to @DJRyan13 for putting me in touch with him. Joe is a Gulf War veteran himself, and was extremely timely and thorough with responding to my emails and questions; I cannot recommend him enough.

With regard to the Silver PVD, I emailed Tiffany a few weeks back about if the option was going to be available again anytime soon. She responded with: "We should have a silver option soon pending some testing. You can list the request in the notes section of the build sheet. " Seems like they are anticipating having it back pretty soon, I'll be speccing it my notes section upon ordering and hoping it will be available again by the time my build is ready to be sent out for coating.

Thanks for the heads up about the fine dust. I'll also be loading indoors in a spare bedroom, and that would be a definite no-go for me. Guess that settles it in favor of CS. Still interested to hear your feedback once you've shot more it of, of course!

Thanks for the heads up, will do.

Anyone know if Everglades ever runs promos or sales? Not in a rush at all since I don't even have an open gun yet, but I intend on picking up one of these holsters for it.

Saw your's earlier today on their IG when I checked it to see if they were running an Easter promo, congratulations!

Thanks! Appreciate the referral to Joe in the other thread btw, placing my order through him as well and he has been a pleasure to work with; extremely fast and thorough replies to emails.

Appreciate the responses and feedback given in this thread fellas. Just ordered a manual Evo without the Mark 7 Powder Measure and went with the kit from Midsouth. Is the Hornady plug-n-play with the Mark 7 presses?

There are users here who have reported that after speaking with Mark 7, they were told that they would have the opportunity to trade in their current set of "optimized die pack" dies for the new Lyman Pro-Series stainless steel ones once they come out. I think if you reached out to Mark 7, there is a decent chance that they would work something similar out with you if you'd like to upgrade your previous-gen primer collator. Worth a shot! Although, I'm not sure this new system is going to be an "upgrade" compared to the current system, so much as a cheaper, lower-capacity option for those of us who can't/won't jump on a $2.2K system.