Xanatos903

I was really hoping we could all get together on one squad, it just didn't work out that way :/ and I'm sorry I didn't stop and chat with y'all, I was kind of frantic trying to get all my gear ready to go lol. I'll try to get some quickly trimmed video up on YouTube later this evening if you want to check it out. I definitely had some bobbles, and a couple malfunctions, but it seemed like all the dryfire in place of matches for the last couple of months worked out for me. Did you have anyone videoing you for the match?

Yeah, we've got a couch that I practice over a lot, it's just not conducive to getting the camera in a decent place lol.

I don't like beating up my mags on the tile floor. I'm just honest with myself when I do reloads like this and ensure that I'm actually depressing the mag release completely. I often practice with mags loaded with dummy rounds because obviously the weight of the mags changes, and also the mag release gets harder to depress. My times are still pretty much identical.

I agree with your logic. When you get it set up, catch me at a match. I don't have a ton of experience with the handstops, and it would be cool to handle another PCC with one on there if you wouldn't mind.

I went straight to the grip tape for this rifle, but only because I've tried VFGs and AFGs on my other ARs and found that I didn't care for them. The grip tape option coupled with the start of the rail there just happens to work really well for me on this rifle. Also, this handguard doesn't have any provisions for mounting accessories besides the short rail sections, so it just wouldn't work with my hand positioning currently. But it really is just a matter of preference. If you like handstops or other grips, I can't imagine how they could interfere with getting that support hand back in position. If anything, I think they might be more repeatable because there's really only one way to grab them. With practice I bet it would work really well.

I think I did have to rezero after putting my comp on. It doesn't seem like much at the ranges we shoot, but you'd probably see drastic shifts in zero at 100 yards just with the addition or removal of a comp. If you're having problems with a Primary Arms optic, send them a message (info@primaryarms.com). I've sent two of their microdots for service after years of use, and they fixed them free of charge.

I got a little stir-crazy this weekend after having yet another match cancelled because of bad weather (I think it's been two months since I've shot one...) so I made a quick video detailing some things I've learned about PCC this offseason that might help people looking to improve within the division. I started shooting competitively in college with my collegiate clay team, and I've been drawing on some of that experience to refine my PCC technique. I mostly shot the American games but my short experience with International Skeet, which starts with a low gun, gave me some things to try with the PCC. Of course, it's not a comprehensive video on the division, so don't hesitate to ask if you've got questions.

Yeah, a decent buffer setup, a tuned load, and a strong grip are far more important to muzzle control than the particulars of compensator design.

They don't really matter unless you're running a short barrel with high charge weights- same recipe you'd use with an open gun. By the time the gas hits the brake at the end of a 16" barrel, it's already expanded to much of its final volume, leaving you with little pressure to work against the baffles. I've got one similar to this on my PCC, and the only reason I've got it on there is to help with timers picking up my shots. Just for fun- I roughly guesstimated what the pressure at the muzzle is for a 16" 9mm load: 25.84 cm3 = volume of a 16" 9mm barrel Max pressure of a 9mm round = 35000 psi (don't get mad at me for mixing si and English units) Total volume of a 9mm round = .96 cm3 Approximate empty volume of a 9mm at combustion = .48 cm3 P1V1 = P2V2 35000 psi x .48 cm3 = (X) x 25.84 cm3 X= 650 psi at the muzzle of a 16" barrel A 4" barrel would have 2600 psi of pressure at its muzzle Now, this is making a lot of assumptions (namely, ignoring volume of gas produced and burn rate) and is just simple math, but comparing that to rifle rounds and shorter barrels, it's clear to me that there's just not much there to work with.

Hmm, I need to take a batch of these out to the range and see how they shoot. I've gotten the FCD set to where it doesn't seem to be shaving brass off the case anymore and rounds are coming out at .377-.379 at the mouth, everything passes the case gauge. However, as I'm using oversized plated bullets, I'm afraid that I might run into accuracy issues like you're talking about.

Excellent input, guys. I'm going to double check that my seating die isn't also crimping at all, set it to remove flare, and then set the FCD only to the point where my rounds pass the plunk test. Some of the variables probably just got crossed when I was setting up the dies to accommodate the FCD, so I'll go back to the start and follow your advice.

I'm having some issues with my loads and I want to get it sorted out rather than just trying to treat the symptoms, so I'm turning to the great minds of Benos. I can't figure out a solution, so any input would be nice. I've been loading on a Hornady LnL for a little over a year now, and I've loaded just over 10k 9mm since I got it. I think since the beginning, I've had a couple rounds per 100 that wouldn't pass the case gauge because the mouth of the case seemed too large. My fix was to simply increase the crimp on my Hornady seat/crimp die which would work, but then I'd end up with a couple/100 with a bullet being crimped by the case. There seemed to be no in between. I checked my sizing die, made sure it was sizing all the way down, adjusted my flaring die so that it flared only just enough for the bullet to be loosely held in place, played with the seating/crimp die, etc. The mouths on the cases with this problem clearly still flare out a little bit. There seems to be no correlation between the problem and these variables: 1. Headstamp. Federal, CBC, Geco, PPU, PMC, Blazer, et. al have all done it) 2. Bullet choice. I'm using RMR 147gr plated RN, which are .356" at the base, but it's happened with basically every bullet I've used. 3. Die settings. I probably haven't tried everything, but all the logical things don't seem to make a difference. I haven't tried sorting brass by length and seeing if it makes a difference, but I really don't want to have to do that every time I pick up a random case at the range. Anyway, my solution was finally just to get a Lee FCD and hope that it solved the problem without introducing any other problems. I set it up according to Lee's instructions (screw in die body until it touches shellplate, screw down mandrel until I feel resistance).Everything passes my case gauge now, but the FCD seems to be shaving my cases, leaving me with brass shavings all over my press. Everything comes out of the press with a mouth diameter of .378", but some cases are still getting torn up. Here's a picture of what the worst-offending cases look like: If you have any ideas feel free to share. If I could get everything to work without having to use the FCD, that'd be great, but that may be a pipe dream. Anyway, thanks in advance for any input you've got.

I don't have any great photos of mine, but I'm a lefty and shoot a Colt pattern PCC without any trouble. Ambi charging handle, norgon-style ambi mag release, and an ambi safety. I put it together for a cost that is negligibly-higher than a normal build. Here's a video of the last classifier I shot to show you how my reloads go:

You might have reloaded some stepped brass- the stuff is notorious for separating at the step. I look down the mouth of every 9mm case I load just to make sure one doesn't slip in and ruin my day. Was the piece of brass that you extracted just a short ring?

JAFO's got the best solution. Check the firing pin, then if it's not broken, check your firing pin channel. The 9mm firing pins don't hold up well, especially if you do any amount of dryfire that actually involves dropping the hammer. I've broken two firing pins and sheared a retaining pin from dryfire. I'm using CMMG firing pins, and I keep a couple extras in my bag at all times.

Same for me. I had a Primary Arms 2MOA Microdot on mine, but now that I've made the switch to the Cmore I'm never going back.

I had the same problem when I was shooting FP bullets. It felt like a really light load, and I was always afraid that I had a squib.When I switched to RN bullets, the problem went away and now I've got totally consistent cycling. My only theory was that my headspacing was inconsistent enough with mixed brass that some of my rounds were jamming into the lands on my short-throated barrel, but I'd think that would cause harder-recoiling rounds instead. Maybe I had a majority which were jammed, and the shorter rounds were actually the ones that felt softer. I never tried seating deeper before I changed to the RN, but that would have been my first attempt at fixing the issue.

Just curious, why do you say they didn't mix well? My go-to load for PCC and pistol is 3.8gr CFE Pistol with a 147 RN. I've loaded and shot around 5k of these, and think I'll be shooting them through next season unless my 124gr testing goes really well. @Banacek I'm not sure what you mean by this being a "strong platform," but a blowback carbine is not something you want to be trying to shoot hotrodded ammo through. You might be able to find a heavier buffer and spring combo that would work, but to just toss a 9major round into a regular AR9 is asking for a case blowout.

I shot an Open G34 for about a year. I was loading 124gr RN to 177pf with CFE pistol, and still wasn't getting the performance I really wanted out of it. I was using a Lone Wolf barrel, Carver Comp, and had the barrel reamed out so I could load to mag length. I was going to go to 115s for more gas volume, but that would have required me to have the barrel reamed again to use the bullets I really wanted. Maybe the gun would actually be controllable with a frame weight and 115s, but I just didn't feel like trying to put lipstick on a pig. I was never going to be as fast on the trigger as I am on a 2011, and I always felt like I was pushing the gun too far.

Why is Production division limited to minor only? Because the scoring model is such that everyone would just shoot major if given the opportunity, and it's a more interesting division with minor scoring. Same thing with PCC, I think. If you don't even have to worry about getting most of your shots in the A-zone anymore, what's the point of shooting a minor gun? It's not like there's a capacity advantage for minor shooters when you have 2' long magazines... Even though PCC really is a go-fast division, you still can't just blaze through a stage and expect a decent score. Essentially, I don't want PCC to become 3-gun. It'd be a lot of fun to shoot, but I just don't think it's right for the division.

I think the Hiperfire 24c is the favorite trigger among PCC shooters right now. I love mine to death, and don't see myself changing anytime soon.

My alma mater here in Texas was a clay shooting powerhouse. I shot for them for 3 years, and then served as a faculty adviser for one year. My GF has also worked for the admissions department there for going on 3 years. Action shooting is not an NCAA or ACUI sport, and as such shooting achievements in this discipline will be considered FAR after GPA and extracurricular involvement. Sure, between two students of equal caliber (pun intended), participating in and showing mastery of an uncommon sport or skill will probably make you more desirable and tip the scales in your favor. Having worked behind the scenes in academia, I don't think anyone would look down on you for being a shooter but it's of questionable worth unless you're trying out for one of their shooting teams. If you have the option to include a video with an application like @George Jones, go for it even if it's just a Bill Drill at 7 yards. Just focus on the skill and discipline involved; don't fill it with political or overly-patriotic themes. If you happen to be an accomplished shooter in a discipline that matters at a collegiate level (bullseye pistol or rifle, or clay shooting), absolutely include that. You'll probably get funneled through the sports-recruiting process and that'll greatly increase your chances of acceptance even with mediocre academics. tl;dr: Don't count on it making a difference if you aren't already academically competitive

That's part of the reason why I like plated bullets for anything that has a comp (open, PCC). They're typically totally plated, meaning you get zero buildup in the comp. My open gun had minimal buildup even after 10k rounds.

1. KAK Industries 16" barrel, Colt Mag lower, Hiperfire 24c, ebay 9mm brake 2. 147gr Rocky Mountain Reloading plated RN. I've also loaded with their FP and HP because the RN weren't available all the time. 3. 3.8gr CFE Pistol. Comes out to 1000 fps from my PCC, 915 from my G34. 4. S&B SPP 5. 1.10" for RN, 1.08" for FP and HP 6. 100% with RN and HP, occasional failures to fire (no mark on primer) with FP. The only thing I can figure is that the FP have a slightly different profile, and occasionally one gets jammed into the lands, keeping the gun slightly out of battery and preventing the hammer from actually striking the FP. A lot of people have these failures to fire with PCCs, and the short throats on them is the only thing I can associate with these failures. 7. I've never benched my rifle, but it does well enough for headshots at 25 yards offhand. 8. Very soft with 147s. If you go too light on the charge the gun can feel sluggish, but I can hammer out pretty quick splits with this setup. 9. I should have looked at the timer at the last match, but some of my splits were around the .15 mark for sure. 10. Minimal. The brake didn't make a difference with dot movement at all. I instead tuned my load to a point where the rifle cycled well but still recoiled soft. If I wanted to totally remove all dot movement, I'd start looking at different buffer setups.

That's excellent news. I've found a short 147gr load that my gun really likes, but it's great to finally have an option on the market specifically meant for people like us.