TonytheTiger

Good to hear something about it. I recently got a TT Diamond for a precision rifle but for funsies I attempted to use it like a 3 gun trigger. No dice, I can't get used to the non existent reset force.

I suppose the jam nut doesn't fit the BSF barrel diameter does it. Good to hear about the bipod, a lot of early reviews complained about them getting loose, they must've tuned them up a little since then.

Brake is upside down. How do you like the Caldwell bipod? Thinking about getting one for one of the kids rifles.

I once hoisted Froelich's rifle out of a dump barrel. It almost pulled me in. I think he said it was around 13lbs and he wouldn't have it any other way. His PCC is similar.

110%

No.

Looked at it again. The handguard I thought was UTG is a Guntec. Same difference, it's a $60 handguard and a $30 trigger. Gun shouldn't cost $1500.

MPA is great in bolt rifle land, but that PCC looks a lot like a company swerving out of their lane to try to snag some easy market share. No $1500 gun should come with UTG parts and not even list the trigger being used.

That was pretty tame as far as SH drama threads go. They have that same exact thread a couple times a year. Slightly different theme but its the same discussion with the same people saying the same things. Then nothing changes and in six months it starts again. If it gets to 10 pages and a PRS official chimes in it'll get entertaining.

@Sarge yeah every club is very different. I've had nearby 3 gun MD's look at me like I have 3 heads when I explain the above. From what I've gathered, most USPSA or 3 gun matches in my area have a situation similar to what you describe.

I've heard some people say that the adjustable BCG's have a narrow adjustability window. No personal experience though.

Tried to post a pic of mine, sounds like what you describe. Gave up on posting pics here though.

To be fair its a bigger production than the average club match. Lunch and water, paid and fed set up crew and RO's, a couple hundred paper and over 1k clays per match, lots of paint, pretty hefty range use fee, shirts for season pass holders, stages that take 8-12 guys most of a saturday to build and troubleshoot, etc. I could cut costs significantly, but if I've learned anything its that I'll get at least as many complaints about loss of features as I have about match cost. Can't please everybody. The $1k number I threw out was just a hypothetical. Its actually at least double that.

Very interested in their findings.

No match. It's as simple as that. If it costs $1000 to run it and I get $700 worth of paid shooters the math doesn't work out so great.

Do you include PRS type stuff? It's currently the trendy sport, and some people call it an action sport. Doesn't really fit well with anything being discussed so far. I can't possibly imagine how you could score all these very different types of shooting to find an overall champion.

Very early in the production process.

Yes! I spent the last season running what is probably the most expensive local 3 gun match around. The people who ran it in the past typically had end of season payouts, catered food at a big shoot off and lots of other cool stuff. They also had 50-75 shooters. I charged the same fee and had similar costs to run the match but had 20-35 shooters all year. By the time I had the bills paid I broke even, but never heard the end of the bitching about lack of freebies. Pretty sure there was an assumption that I directly profited from it and very few people could understand that it costs money to run a match.

@ecn515 that pretty much reinforces my thoughts of them, but from an end user so it's worth a lot more than my opinion.

I've always kinda scratched my head when I see a barrel that expensive in a sport designed to kill barrels. What are your reasons for not recommending them?

I once toasted a 223 barrel with about 2500 rounds of relatively slow fire. So even though that should never happen I could see that particular barrel dying with hundreds of rapid fired rounds. How does the throat on your Proof look @Guillermo757?

My LGS yesterday told me that they are getting plenty of primers. I said cool, where are they? Apparently they don't even put them on the shelves, they go straight onto GB to get bid up to $150-200 per 1k. I wasn't super impressed.

This is the moment we've all been waiting for.

Both my PDI and all those of friends that have them drop to half cock. It's weird and a little unnerving but I couldn't get it to drop any further. Curious what Hiperfire tells you though, they have to be aware of it by now.

Just did some googling, looks like the SLP's go for about twice the M3K money, very much into Beretta territory. For what it's worth, the SLP's went extinct in 3 gun right about the time I started. I got to shoot a couple, and at the time my perception was that they shot soft but were pretty heavy and just didn't having that feeling of pointing naturally that shotguns are supposed to have. Their owners seemed pretty happy to get them sold and move into more mainstream guns. Not entirely sure what their reasons where though. Edit to add: I just remembered how bad the forend was too. It hangs down pretty far below the receiver and really hampers loading.