Brian Payne

No need to worry about a world record. I have a distraction planned. You know that stick that everyone thought was so funny in the last years match? (at my expense I might add) Well, y'all might want to be wearing a cup! Just sayin'

Mobile 1, I can't remember but I think it was 5w40 or something like that. I just use the excess from when I change the oil on my FJ Cruiser. I use it on all of my weapons.

I like your stages. How do you draw them up like that?

Jesse, It is easy as a competitor to sit back after a match and voice opinions as to how the match should have been made better, but for a competitor to step forward and volunteer to be an MD, RM, RO, stats keeper, or what have you is showing an attitude that I like to see. Good job.

Jansen, Awesome video, thanks.

Benny, Damn, I never thought of that!!

Burpees!! My oldest son made his living as a Personal Trainer for several years until he got into Law Enforcement. I asked him what a good workout would be for me, at my age, to help stay in shape for 3-gun matches. I normally run 2-3 miles several times per week, but that really does nothing other than helping with the "wind" part of staying in shape. Getting into and out of positions needs something a little more in my opinion. I found this out at the 2013 Task Force Dagger 3-gun match. His advice to me was to pick an area right next to where I pasture my Paint Stallion. It is a steep enough hill that when you walk up it, you are breathing hard. He advised to sprint the 120 yards up the hill, do 10 burpees when you reach the top of the hill, then walk back down the hill and do it over, five times. I did that yesterday and thought that I was going to die. I am planning on doing this three times per week for the next month, then do some flexability exercises on the other days. His adice is to work at it until you can do ten sets of that drill. What doesn't kill you will make you stronger, right? I refer to it as my "Earn a Beer Program".

At 54, I know about the speed of focus from target to front sight or the other way around. It is much slower now than it was in my youth. I was lucky enough to take a class with Ben earlier this year. It was an unusual class for me because it seemed the instructor was asking as many questions as the student. A topic like this would come up, and the questions would start. Which do you think is faster? why do you think it would be faster? what other ways have you tried and what were the results? have you tried it on a timer to find out if it is actually faster? let's go try it. It was interesting to me because during the class we would try the different ideas of the students, using a timer, and a little added stress, to find out which technique worked best for each student. It was surprising what the results were, and they were often different for each student. I guess proving the point that there really isn't one "THE" way, but there are lots of "A" ways to handle each shooting challenge. The good thing about the drills is that I came away from them with the confidence of knowing what worked best for me. This confidence assisted in keeping tension out of my shooting and allowed me to perform at my best.

I am just guessing that your elevation (Colorado Springs) must be around the same elevation as Raton. Coming from Minnesota, I would always try to get there two days early to get acclimated to the altitude and I would start hydrating before I left my home state. It seemed that I would become dehydrated faster in the climate around the NRA Whittington Center.

I try to get in the good graces of all RO's on the stages by being the first to run down range to reset. It is amazing how appreciative a group of RO's can be when a squad works hard at reset. I also always make it a point at the stage brief when the RO's are introduced, to thank them for their work, then shake their hand and tell them thanks again when the stage is over. I don't do this to "suck up", it is done because I have been in their position and I remember the little things that I really appreciated about some of the shooters. Being an RO, CRO, RM or MD is a very tough job, we as competitors sometimes forget that. Maybe having an award for "best RO squad" and "fastest reset squad" would help with this situation. It would help keep RO and competitor alike, focused on the true intent of the sport, that is being on a range together having fun while shooting guns in a safe manner.

I can't add much to what has already been said. This was a great match and I am glad others thought it was physically demanding because I was starting to think that maybe I was just getting old. A big thanks to the sponsors, RO's, Legion, and Mike and Andy. We got back home to MN after driving straight through from the match at about 0930 hrs. Monday morning. I didn't have the energy left to go right back to work. Thanks to the rest on Squad 1 for making this an unforgettable match. I was able to be shooting with two of my sons on Fathers Day. How do you beat that?

THAT is what it is all about!!!! Good job.

I have been running my new Vinci in the hopes to having it good to go for the Task Force Dagger 3-gun. 1: The "points and fits me" is spot on with my Vinci as well. I seem to be faster on the splits, not because the shotgun shoots any faster but because my confidence level is higher. 2: Slug POI/POA was spot on for me out to 100 yrds. I will be trying more a little later. I was using Federal "Tru-Ball" low recoil slugs using IC choke. I would try different slugs and chokes before becoming too concerned. 3: The loading port needed work. I won't post a picture because I used a Rasp that I use to trim my horses hooves, then files, then sand paper. Worked great but looks nasty. The shotgun isn't the cutest looking firearm in the safe but it sure does shoot well. Don't fool around too much where the shell rim sits when loaded. If you open that too far, it allows the shells to jump past the shell catch. I'm just sayin'. Good luck.

I have become a big fan of the quadload. I started it because I wanted a good way to load shells from the right side of my belt since I normally load weak hand from the left side of the gear belt. Plus on long stages that require a lot of loading, I would sometimes get cramps in the thumb of the weak hand and quadloads allowed me to give the weakhand thumb a break. Based on timer results (stand in the basement loads), I feel the quadload is faster, but in a match you are doing more than just reloading while the timer is running. This seems to be the great "equalizer". Practice what works for you I guess. For me, I am still going to practice with both and be prepared to use both during a match. Interesting story, on Stage #6 at CMMG I watched a shooter go to slide lock on the shotgun portion while still having three pieces of steel standing. The shooter did a smoking reload of three rounds, then proceeded to fire three rounds in very rapid succession at one of the stationary pieces of steel. After this blazing display of shotgun trigger speed, there were still three pieces of steel standing. Moral of the story for me. Make your hits first, then worry about any sort of smoking reloads.

Thanks to Ken, Larry, the Overstreets, the RO's, the military help (what great young people), the sponsors, and the fellow shooters. I was lucky enough to be on Squad #1, and everyone worked as hard on the reset (it became a competition amongst us) as they did on their shooting. I learned a lot from members of this squad as well as members of some of the other squads we followed, or were in front of most of the match. I was impressed with the number of newer shooters I saw at the match. Also with the number of shooters that I had never seen before, that had obviously been doing some diligent practice. Anyone thinking they could come to this match and have an easy time climbing the ranks because the "Pro's" were not there were sadly mistaken. This had to have been one of the strongest group of shooters I have ever seen grouped into one match. It made for a very enjoyable weekend. The MN3GunGroup was well represented by 20+ shooters from our state with two Division winners in HM and HMO, and a 3rd in TI. Good job guys!! way to represent.

+1 On HoGs And Heifers. Motorhome Is Packed And Heading To The Home Range NoW ToRun Some Relaxation Drills. Phone Is Working The Caps For Me Sorry.

Benny, I don't know about a golf cart, but you might be able to hire one of those boys with the big tired trucks that they used to pull Ty out of the mud on the first CMMG shoot. Watching that big truck sling huge globs of gumbo mud onto Ty's vehicle offered me great humor. Then seeing you guys using the pressure washer car wash in Fayette to clean your guns and gear for the trip home was priceless.

waktaxz Forget that "take a bit more off" stuff, hog that sucker! Then take some photo's and let me know how it worked out so I know how far I can push mine.

Maybe I am just blessed, or naive, but I have been lucky enough to shoot with some of the best 3-gunners in the country at some of the Major matches including two Multi-gun Nationals. I have never witnessed the sort of behavior that some of the people in this thread complain about taking place. Just lucky I guess. I will even go so far as to say that I have seen nothing but great sportsmanship by some of these same shooters. I won't even start to name names as the thread would go on for pages on that alone. Suffice it to say that I thankfully have not bore witness to any sort of cheating infractions that some of the posters on this thread talk about. I have not been to very many handgun only matches, but when I have gone I have had nothing but good experiences with the shooters at those venues as well. I do not know Mr. Dueck personally but I have had the chance to talk with him several times while at a match and he has always struck me as a person of character. I know during heated competition things can take place that other competitors may witness, or worse yet just hear about, and then judgement is passed. This is understandable and I am guessing I have been guilty of it myself at times. Hopefully this was one of "those things" that happens and nothing was done with the thought of cheating being at the root of the problem. I am also hoping that the people personally involved can get together and personally discuss the issues at hand and get some closure to this topic.

MSA Sordins with Gel Pad gets my vote as well. I have tried Peltors and Pro ears, while very nice, these are better for me. I have been in the rain with these without problems but I can't attest to if they are actually "waterproof".

Another added thought, while checking your buddies shells, make sure the brass is all on the same side. I'm just sayin'.

Doxapar, Sorry to hear about the DQ, I hadn't heard about it before seeing this. It was great to see all of the shooters, expecially the new shooters, show up for the match. I wish it hadn't lasted quite as long as it did but that is how it goes. Hope to see you at the next 3-gun.

Solscud007, I figured as much. Again good job on the caddies. I wish I had the patience and ability to build half of the stuff that I have purchased. When you look at some of the products you are often left with the thought "why the heck didn't I think of that".

Solscud007 I am sure you weren't intentionally throwing a "gig" at anyone with this comment. I am guessing you were just making a statement of fact about the high cost of the equipment we use and you just picked a company making a product you were looking at immitating. Good job on your holders, they look great. MarkCO - just a quick shout out for the class act. As the owner of Carbon Arms I am guessing you could have taken offense to a comment like this, instead you give out a kudo's. I like that. Shows "class" in my book.

I am just posting with an apology to Tim Ubl and anyone else I may have offended. I have been calling these carriers QUADLOADS this whole time and actually the name is QUALOAD. My deepest apology. Carry on.