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I know where you could rent one

It's a whole lot easier to just use a block or loading tray, anything that holds the rounds so all you have to do is push the speedloader down over the heads and lock them in.

I enjoy going to a match and have a bunch of bottom feeders go "WOW, that was a fast reload or that was smooth" when I shoot my wheelgun. I enjoy shooting wheelguns more than semis because I like the challenges - don't always rise to those challenges, but I have to try. I'm at the point that I don't mind shooting an IDPA match shooting major but an area or sectional USPSA match does start to seem like masochism. I have shot many local matches over the last 15 years where I was the only revolver shooter, didn't matter because that's what I wanted to shoot. If I had competition, fine, otherwise I just looked at my time and hits compared to the other shooters. We've got 14 pages of comments on this right now so there's interest but we're starting to make dogfood out of the dead horse...If what Mike and Rob are proposing is a provisional change, why not try it? At the end of the trial period we'll have a whole lot better picture than we do now. Worst case scenario, it doesn't do anything to increase participation. Best case scenario, we bring in droves of new shooters and match directors start creating stages to balance the advantages of 6 or 8 shot revolvers. Reality will lie somewhere in between. Time to jump into the water...

Yes, you need a block. The rounds aren't stable enough without it. I use the Safariland loading block/tray (http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/speedloaders-accessories/speedloader-loading-blocks/safariland-speedloader-loading-blocks-prod12499.aspx). I set it up on an "It's a Box" from Dillon http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/24578/catid/26/Itsabox_. The top of the box has a hinged cover with storage space. I took the handle off the tray and attached it to the cover with four self tapping screws. Works great - when I get to my first stage I start filling up the positions (14) so all I have to do after I shoot is stick the empty speedloader over one of the positions, push it down over the cases, twist and lock and I'm done. I carry my ammo and gear in the box and it has a tray that I put my speedloaders and holders in. If I only put 200-300 rounds in the box I even have room for my gun.

Yup, and damn proud of it!

Oh, to be 46 again!

Javier, I agree that your method would provide the cleanest data points to evaluate but how are you going to make that happen? Maybe on a local level, a guy can shoot the match with one gun and then reshoot with the other. Even this is skewed because you have already shot the stages and developed a better plan - most of the time - from that experience. So which one do you shoot first? Even with that, this may provide the best data to evaluate single shooter abilities. Having a large match with shooters of similar abilities shooting the two platforms also gives you data - only if the stages are 6/8 neutral instead of 4 target arrays. As always, course design is the key. I don't have an 8-shot but would probably buy one if the rules were changed to allow them without the draconian ban to open. Bottom line - You can stand on the bank all day but if you can't see the bottom, you don't know how deep the water is until you get in. Whether we wade in or jump in, we've got to get in the water to find out.

If I were going to carry one moonclip or speedloader in my vest pocket and two on my belt, I'd make sure I didn't have any other ones in my vest pockets. When you start a course of fire, you have three "ammo carriers" available for reloads during the stage. The rulebook and addendum are pretty clear on that. Three on the belt or three in the pocket, or a combination of belt and pocket BUT no more than three. It's not splitting hairs. It's black and white. That doesn't mean you can't have extra speedloaders or moonclips in your pocket as long as you are pulling ammo from your belt. If you're pulling ammo from your vest pocket, I'd have any extras in a pants cargo pocket or somewhere besides the vest so there is a clear demarcation of storage. The rulebook does not address how you carry them in your pocket. I have a vest that has elastic strips sewn in the back of the pocket. I use them sometimes to put my barney mag in so it isn't bouncing around my pocket. If a guy had an old shoot the moon moonclip holder or Safariland CD-2 speedloader holder, he could probably slide the belt clip portion down through that elastic loop and have a fairly stable way of carrying his ammo in his pocket...

I think you're wrong here. Most wheelgunners shoot wheelguns in any discipline they can shoot them in. Yes, it's a different game with different rules but you adjust and shoot.

May you have many more!! Jerry

I've been hankering for a 627 for a while but we don't have ICORE in the St Louis area (I'm trying to get something started) so I really wouldn't have anywhere to shoot it in competition. If USPSA allowed 8 shot revolvers, I'd buy one to shoot USPSA and ICORE. I'm getting close to the point where my age will start with a 6 and I'd like to try shooting something with minor power factor and still be somewhat competitive. I bought a 646 in 2003 and shot it at about a 140-145 PF and loved it. When IDPA changed the rule in 2005 that all moonclip revolvers had to shoot 165 PF it took the fun out of shooting that gun - think 165 PF in an N-frame 45 is bad, try it in an L-frame 40 shooting major! I believe having the stand alone nationals this year for revolver will give a better idea on the level of interest but I don't think that's enough. I like the idea of creating a provisional rule for Sam's match to see what allowing 8-shooters would do. Jerry Mosher PS Rob, did you call your mother yet?

Heh Heh! Shoot Blue Ridge's snubbie with it stoked with .454s!

WINNING?? WHO'S TALKING ABOUT WINNING?? (In my best Jim Mora imitation )

Ready Tactical makes a great holster. I've had one for my L-frame for over 8 years and it still works great. I believe the security of this type holster far outweighs any minute difference in draw speed you get with a skeleton holster. If I didn't have my Comp-Tac Locking Paddle for my 625, I'd probably have a Ready Tactical for it.

Correct

If you wear a wilderness instructor belt, I don't think you'll have any problems with this holster passing muster. The Tek-lok pulls the gun in fairly close.

Keep the faith Chuck. Grew up in the southern tier - Cattaraugus - and got my permit when I was 18. Most of the family is gone but still have friends there. Living in Illinois after retiring from the military. This state is so much like NY - predominately rural, small towns but dictated to and sucked dry by a sewer at one end of it. I'm just waiting for the north of I-80 crowd in the Illinois legislature to try the same thing. Jerry

Practice? What the heck is that?

Negatory. Just one division back then. I tried to find a 9mm Speed 6 -thought it would be a neat little gun to shoot in SSR. Never found one though.

If they'd just get the cylinder to come out on the right side of the gun, I'd do that!

Jet

Looks like the threaded barrel is about 1/2" longer than the stock barrel so unless you can get your 34 to "suck it in" when you put it in the box, it's a no go

Maybe some double your pleasure, double your fun?

Ken, are you going to get s shirt made up with the patch for this one?

Jerry Mosher, Crusty Old Fart, B Class, Troy, IL