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I'm glad IDPA spells it out in their Rule Book: 3.19.10 I understand it is my duty to help reset stages between shooters unless I am the current shooter, the on-deck shooter or have just finished shooting, unless instructed otherwise by an SO. 3.19.15 I understand that violations of these responsibilities and code of conduct will result in my Disqualification from a match, and may result in the revocation of my IDPA membership. Now that's a part of IDPA we could get used to.

Part of the fun of the sport is doing each division differently. If we make everything the same, then there's less fun.

I would say you aren't wrong. Target sticks basically don't exist, scoring-wise. Also, there's nothing in the rule book to say you can't shoot between target sticks, or around them or over them, or close enough to give them goose bumps, or whatever. The thing you can't do is shoot a full-diameter hit through a paper target and then take credit for knocking down a steel - unless the hit on paper was a partial diameter, which makes it count on both the paper and the steel. If the stage designer wanted to keep you away from the steel while the paper was visible, s/he should have designed the stage so the targets were separated by more space or by barriers. I'd say the penalty calls were incorrect.

I'm with this. For 40 cal, four mags on the belt if they're 17 rds or more, provides 18 (or more) to start in the gun. Use mag #3 to barney, then load mag #4 into the gun, leaving three mags for reloads. Most stages will use 2 mags, although some may need 3 due to stage strategy. That leaves one (or two) left over for flubbed reloads and mag catastrophies (CYA). In Production it's 5 mags on the belt, one more in a pocket to load at MR. Never gone to #5 on the belt, but I've gone to #4 either due to stage strategy or a flubbed reload.

Funny how it's popular to bash the organization these days. No surprise at all.

In the case of the RO yelling stop for a DQ (which may be be overturned by the RM a few minutes later, in this scenario), the "contact" is not inadvertent. The RO deliberately said "STOP" and interferered with the shooter. No, the RO didn't "interfere" with the shooter by voicing a legitimate command - that's not interference. Interference is defined above as "inadvertent contact from the Range Officer" (e.g., who was too close too the shooter and got bumped when the shooter moved) "or another external influence" (which, if the rules-makers meant "range commands", they would have said so). So, issuing a "stop" command wouldn't result in offering a reshoot. It would be a mandatory reshoot if it turns out that the shooter wasn't at fault, for instance a group of beagles who escaped from field training nearby appears on the top of the back berm and enthusiastically start down the berm to greet the squad and get their ears scratched (it happened...).

That was nice muzzle control when you turned around to pick up a mag off the rear barrel. Sorry about the "skating" mag on the front one.

Zip line Polish plate rack, rotating horizontally...

Great match, good stages, well put together. I would add to the other comments that the range staff was high-quality and very professional, which certainly made it a lot easier for us (no distractions, even when reminding us what "facing uprange/downrange" means ). Thanks to all for putting this on for us!

Yep. Not great for the sport, all in all. Although it did get me to thinking about my own feelings about this. It would he disappointing, of course, but it's "force of nature" and beyond our control. I believe I would want to chalk it up to karma and come back next year. The staff all worked hard on this and deserve our appreciation.

There's a memory stage?

There's a mover?

Send us a picture!

Just about everyone here seems to think the RO and MD did the right things (or as right as they could get them, being human and dealing with unforseen force-of-nature stuff), given the situation they had to deal with. I also agree, and depending on the situation I might have found options for coming back the next day. I don't see any evidence that the match administrators aren't qualified or capable. On the contrary, they seem to have given this situation a good deal of conscious thought and came up with a reasonable solution, given what they had to work with. They (and all their brethren and sistren) deserve our appreciation for putting on the match. (Disclosure - I wasn't at this match but have shot/fought through rain-and-mud matches. Not as much fun as a sunny day, for sure...)

Then there's the dreaded "traveling chrono"...

I'm a little unclear here. Where does it say that a False Start "means actually firing shots, not just moving"? The only thing I could find in the rulebook is in both 8.3.4 and the Glossary (A3), where it says that a false start is "Beginning an attempt at a COF prior to the "start signal"". In many of our COFs, as in the one in the OP's example, the first thing we do after the start signal to MOVE, for example taking our hands off the Xs and both going for the gun and making a movement with our feet, or making a movement into the shooting area as we go for the gun, etc. Most people, I believe, would consider that to be the beginning of an attempt at a COF. Also, in the OP's story it sounded as though the start signal ("beep") may have been given ("before the beep the competitor removes hands from the marks and goes to the gun. Competitor realizes they have moved prior to beep..."). In that case, it sounds like a possible False Start, and the competitor realized it and stopped. I would agree, the RO could have stopped the action ("Stop" command) and restarted from "Are you ready?" to make it a clean run.

Hmmm, That sounds a lot like question 34 on the RO re-cert exam Hope it's not. If you can't make your own decisions, you probably shouldn't be an RO...and it takes too long to get the answer on BE, so you'd be holding up the match every time you ask us for the answer.

What about the situation where someone DQs twice, say at major matches, for the same type of safety issue, like muzzle control or finger control? (I'd guess that does happen.) What's the take on that from the viewpoint of the MD/RM? What should we (as a sport) be doing, both for safety and to help the shooter make the changes that are apparently not being made?

Aaaah...there it is!

So where is the registration page? The one listed gets us a 404 "page not found" error...

It's not about the red fiber optic front sight - it's about discipline. Build discipline, watch and SEE, and the red sight won't be a problem.

We hear you - you think it's "completely stupid". Thanks for your input. Others may disagree. The interested reader can Google "condition 3 carry" and read others' takes on this topic.

Condition 3 is Jeff Cooper's term for loaded mag in gun, chamber empty. It refers mainly to the 1911 platform and is presumably safer than Condition 1 (cocked/locked). You draw the gun and simultaneously rack the slide to chamber a round. I've seen people do this in a class (some time ago), and for a while I didn't know they were doing it because they were so fast and fluid. Not stupid at all.

Outstanding! I knew there was a simple solution.

Yep, you'll give up considerable time moving to the downrange left corner of the stage for the sole purpose of shooting the mover (now called a "sitter") through the port. Be a sport and shoot it while it's moving!