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I recall reading in some of the gun rags that the British SAS had changed over from their trademark Browning HP to the Sig P226, with the Sig P228 as a secondary issue when concealment was an issue. So for a member of HMSS a Sig P228 would be a good fit. And it does carry and conceal well, IMHO. Although I will admit, I have never tried to conceal a Sig P228 under a dinner jacket. The Walther PPK in 7.65mm, at the time that the Ian Fleming Bond novels were written, was a pretty good choice. Silencers (or supressors, your choice) were available that worked well with that weapon. In the 1950's to early 60's, there were probably more small automatic's in 7.65mm(.32ACP) in circulation world wide, (if you excluded the wheelgun loving American's) then ANY other pistol. (from W.H.B. Smith's "The Book of Pistols and Revolvers")

Add another vote for the Concealed Carry Clothiers vest, in warmer weather. However, during the December or February matches, (and even some other times depending on the ever changing weather here) the concealment garment tends to be whatever field jacket, parka, sweat shirt, or down vest that keeps me warmest.... For some reason shivering does not help my accuracy (and I need all the help I can get )

"It's not really good for any action shooting in particular" It should fit into Enhanced Service Pistol division, for IDPA. If my reference's are correct, the magazines should hold either 8 or 9 rounds, plus 1 in the chamber. That's not too much of a difference from the division maximum of of 10 plus 1. Then there is Single Stack division (provisional) for USPSA. Depending on how you load the 9mm Largo, you might make major, but I wouldn't advise it, in an un-ramped barrel. Better, IMHO, to go with it as a minor caliber gun, and use the capacity to your advantage. And the most important thing, again IMHO, is that you have the gun, you like shooting it, and you have fun. There is no need to apologize, or even to feel like explaining why you chose that pistol. BTW, back in the mid-80's, when I started in USPSA, I shot several club matches with a West German Police trade-in Walther P-38. That was a $100 gun, and I really had fun with it.

I share the same home club as Gary Stevens, who is kind enough not to laugh too loudly at my attempts to make a wheelgun go round and round and round and..... But I do also try my luck with bottom feeders from time to time

Upon discovering that one of the local radio stations had begun non-stop Christmas music (on the 15th BTW), I spent a very satisfying few moments reprograming my car radio.... AND THAT STATION WAS REMOVED FROM MY PLAY LIST !!!!!!! I hate the Grinch!!! He wuss'd out. If he'd done the deed properly, all this could have been avoided

A little late to add my comments on which revolver to get (my choice is a Model 638 Airweight Bodyguard) but I do have a suggestion for the pocket holster. I've been using a Mika pocket holster, for over 10 years. The synthetic material protects the gun from sweaty pockets very well. The mouth of the holster is reinforced to keep it from collapsing when the gun is drawn. And the price is quite reasonable. The company website is: www.frontiernet.net/~akim/ http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/ And it looks like you got a good deal at the auction

I use a Smith & Wesson Model 625-3 with 5 inch barrel. I've been using an Ernie Hill "Fas-Trac" holster(somewhat old-school), Safariland belts (inner/outer) and California Comp Works Shoot-the-Moon holders. Right now I've got Pachmayr Compac grips (for K/L frame round butt) on, but like most wheelgunners, I've tried a few different grips, and may even try some more. I'm not real sure whose springs are inside right now (I've used Wolff, Wilson and Bang products) but I can only blame myself for the action work. Black sights front and rear. While my results may not have been on the top of the score sheet, I can't blame the revolver. Now about that loose nut behind the trigger...that part I can blame

The weekend of October 7 & 8 will be a very good weekend for wheelgunner's who are looking for good matches to attend. Iowa Single-Stack and Revolver back-to-back matches, and Sectional Matches in Florida and Ohio. Someday, Nemo, we will be attending the same match. But my plans for this weekend include avoiding Shakey Bridges while trying not to embarass myself in front of my fellow wheelgunners at the Ohio Sectional. One of the good things that my daughter's and I share is a love of shooting. Even though she's "all grown-up" my oldest, Diana, still looks forward to attending matches with me. And she will be squadded with me this weekend. Good luck and good shooting to you and your sons.

And with the low prices of gasoline in Ohio these days, I can afford to bring an extra 5 gallon can just in case a certain "Shakey Bridge" reappears..... I already have the road flares in the trunk....

Amen, Brother Nemo!!!! As a wheelgunner, who also likes, and shoots in Production, you've covered most of my thoughts on this debate. I would add that Minor Caliber scoring, and 10 round limits, IMHO make this division interesting. Accuracy becomes very important, as does strategy in planning out the reloads. (kind of like wheelgunning does, but that's a different thread)

Count me in as a wounder, rather then a killer I'm on my second set of diffuser hoods (sun shades) for my chrono. I had a bad experience with a snub-nosed revolver that shot high...very high...very very high, with the load that I was working on. That time I only hit one of the hoods. So, wanting to finish getting the results, I tried just one more cylinder full...and that took care of the second hood. Since then I have been fortunate. AND I check to see where the gun and load hits, before I fire it over the chrono. Holes in paper beat holes in chrono, every time.

This year I've changed over to Clays. In my guns, it has been cleaner then Titegroup, and accuracy is good. (when the loose nut behind the trigger does his job ) 4 grains of Clays 230 grain Rainier plated RN Federal LP 150 primers OAL: 1.260 average velocity 734 FPS/ Power Factor 168.820 from S&W Model 625 revolver, 5" barrel average velocity 727 FPS/ Power Factor 167.721 from S&W Model 625 revolver, 4" barrel I had been using Titegroup for the last two years, with the following loads: 4.6 grains Titegroup 230 grain Zero FMJ/RN Federal LP 150 primers OAL: 1.260 average velocity 736 FPS/ Power Factor 169.280 from S&W Model 625 revolver, 5" barrel average velocity 725 FPS/ Power Factor 166.750 from Colt's Series 80 automatic, 5" barrel

A careful review of the stage descriptions leads me to believe that my nemesis, "The Infamous Shakey Bridge" will NOT be making a return visit. YAAAAAY !!!!!!!!! On the other hand, Diana is not happy. That Shakey Bridge was where she beat me badly last year, and she was looking forward to another opportunity Thank you Kyle. BTW, My vote's for the Bill Drill style for Triple Six

This weekend I was at a match and one of the stages had three target arrays of 4 targets each. Comstock, 8 scored shots on each array, 24 scored rounds. One array on each end of the wall, (left/right) and the center array engaged through a barrel. One of my squad mates looked at my S&W 625, and commented, "That's not a very Revolver friendly stage, is it?" I was able to use the definition that both Nemo and Spook used earlier in this thread: "My definition of Revolver Friendly: NO PRONE!!! That stage is OK" Thanks guy's for the neat line. BTW, it was a nicely done club match, at the Putnam County, West Virginia Gun Club. http://www.putnam.uspsa-area5.org

At least two wheelgunners so far. (assuming the Ohio border patrol doesn't catch this Kentuckian coming across the bridge ) BTW: Kyle, I do have a plan for that Shakey Bridge prop...involving a small quantity of a flammable liquid, and a road flare....

Nemo, now you have gone and done it! Stirred up another attack of the dreaded "NEW GUN FEVER" with those pic's of the new toy. She Who Must Be Obeyed is not too pleased with you. I had just settled down from the last attack, and now..... Very nice revolver. Let us know how it handles.

My congratulations, Sir, on your performance with the wheelgun. An impressive run, in a short time. Enjoy it while you can. You may even last a couple of months in the top 20 "C" class, before you move on up into "B" class. How do I know this you ask???? Once upon a time, I was in the Top 20 "C" class list, and proud of it, too. But then, it happened...... Progress was made, improvement in skills and....I reaped my reward.... 60.88 % Welcome to "B" Class And making 73% on Classifier 06-06 tells me it won't be long before you join the B-fish pond. Welcome to the club!!!!! BTW: Revo's are fun, aren't they? My compliments on shooting the revolver well.

"El honor no se mueve de lado como los congrejos. That is, honor does not move sidewise like a crab, senor" from "The Long Goodbye" by Raymond Chandler

The wrist band has a loop in it, that goes over the thumb. This makes a protective flap, behind the web of the thumb and forefinger. IF the single action revolver has a large hammer, to help with fanning or thumbcocking, sometimes, if the shooter grips too high on the grip, you can get a nasty bite taken out of the web of the hand, while trying to do some quick draw and fanning or slip shooting. The hammer spur on a Colt's Single Action Army does have some sharp edges on it. And some of the replicas, like the Uberti's, J.P. Sauer and the Great Western's had some long hammer spurs to help with thumbcocking. Ed McGivern's "Book of Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting", Section 8, pages 98 and 100 have some photo's that show what I'm trying to describe.

Sam. please stick around. You still haven't told me if your (very pretty, BTW) 6" barrelled Model 25 is better then your 5" Model 625. It certainly did better then my 625 did at the Kentucky Sectional last weekend Take care, and it was a pleasure seeing you last weekend.

I've been using the following in mixed brass (mostly WW) 4.3 grains Titegroup 124 grain FMJ/RN (either Zero or Precision Delta) Federal Small Pistol primers (#100) 1.150 OAL .375 crimp chrono results at 10' Taurus PT99: 1087 FPS/134.7 power factor Glock 34: 1131 FPS/140.2 power factor PO8 Luger (the original parabellum) 1047 FPS/ 129.8 power factor As always, YMMV. Every gun is an individual, and what works fine in mine, may not work at all in yours. But finding out what works is part of the fun.

Add my compliments to the SilverCreek crew. Even for a left-handed revolver shooter, it was a fun match. (And a real challenge, too) I'd like to thank the members of Squad 11, for being patient with this slow-shooting wheelgunner (at least my times made me look like I'm a slooow shooter) Look at it this way, the on-deck shooter after me gets lots of time to plan their run. Squad 11 didn't do too badly at the awards session, with winners in Production, Limited and Open divisions, showing that you didn't have to be on Squad 12 to win something My daughter Diana enjoyed her second Kentucky Sectional, even if her rear sight kept wandering (at least that was her alibi for a few of the mike's) Thanks for a fun major match.

Hopalong: Diana said thank you for the compliments, but it's a TAURUS, not a G***K But she forgives you. Being such a dedicated wheelgunner, you probably can't tell the bottomfeeders apart (they all look the same, don't you know ) Lefty45: Congratulations, Sir!!! And my compliments on representing the 10-percenters so well. I was able to watch Phil on Stage 4, and that was a very nicely done demonstration on left-handed reloads while moving. Airedale: She Who Must Be Obeyed is somewhat upset with you. I mentioned a certain Model 27 that you were kind enough to allow me to fondle, and She detected the onset of another attack of the dreaded Wheel Gun Fever...not good...Thanks

There will be at least three wheelgunners there (Hopalong, Airedale and yours truly) Some of the posted stages have made me reconsider how many moon clips I can fit onto my belt. My daughter Diana will be shooting with me. Unfortunately, she still hasn't given up on that bottomfeeder of hers. We are scheduled for Saturday PM/Sunday AM, and looking forward to having fun again. (Our second KY sectional at Silvercreek)

I am with Revchuck, in that what I would like revolver to be something along the lines of "Limited 6" No comp's, no dots, 6 shots and then reload. If you want to "tinker" with your wheel, go ahead. But remember to have fun with the wheelgun.