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There are 2 types of shooters in regards to shooting and chronographs: Those who HAVE shot their chronograph. Those who WILL shoot their chronograph. (I haven't killed a chronograph yet, but I have wounded one )

Thanks Cuz. Yes, both SWMBO and my daughter feel that the "break" of the trigger pull is smoother and lighter with the "-" connector. SWMBO said that the original G44 trigger felt like her Gen5 G17 in terms of takeup. That was OK, but when the "break" happened (striker released and round fired) she described it as both harder and heavier then her Gen5 G17. She did not like the reset, saying it was not "crisp, easily felt" My daughter described the original G44 trigger as "heavy and hard" compared to her Gen4 G17 and she didn't like the reset either. Since they'd fired the G44 the most I figured I'd go with their "request", and try a factory "-" connector. At that point the round count was 1450. After the change, they both feel that the trigger pull is smoother, the break feels lighter, and they like the reset. 920 rounds have been fired with the new "-" connector. I agree with them about the reset. A very definite reset, with an audible click, where the original G44 trigger was not definite or audible on the reset. Not sure about the actual trigger pull weight, since I do not have a trigger weight gauge, but subjectively it feels lighter. SWMBO's scores on the indoor GSSF match CoF went from 457x20X (original connector) to 477x29X ("-" connector) The combination of the "-" connector and the new fiber optic front sight seem to be working for her.

Glock 44 purchased 1/30 Serial # prefix ADUH Primary use: GSSF Rimfire Division 2370 rounds fired to date 900 rounds CCI MiniMag (40gr. CPRN) 730 rounds Federal Champion #510 (40gr. LRN) 3 FTF, 1 FTE 470 rounds Federal AutoMatch #AM22 (40gr. LRN) 1 FTF 150 rounds CCI Standard Velocity (40gr. LRN) 3 FTE 120 rounds Remington Golden Bullet (36gr. HP) 2 FTF (note: all FTF rounds fired after being rechambered for a second try) 12 indoor range sessions, including 2 Indoor GSSF matches (GSSF Alternative CoF Option A) pistol cleaned and lubed after each range session Modifications: Pearce Mag Well plug installed when purchased. After 1450 rounds installed a Dawson .205T x .105W fiber optic front sight and a Glock minus (3.5) connector Accuracy: depends on the Loose Nut Behind The Trigger. Using a B8 target, at 25 yards, very slow fire with spotter's help, was able to put 10 rounds each of the CCI MiniMags, and both Federal loads, into the 9/10 rings. Using a Bianchi D1 target and the GSSF CoF (10 rounds in 15 seconds, at 5,7,10,15 and 25 yards, 50 rounds total) the pistol is capable of keeping all 50 rounds into the 8/10 rings. I haven't been able to produce that accuracy on demand, kept pulling rounds into the 5 ring. Other notes: Primary users are my wife (SWMBO) and adult daughter. They are both experienced GSSF shooters, and use a Gen5 G17 and a Gen4 G17 respectively. The factory front sight was changed to a fiber optic front sight to match the sight on their other Glocks. The trigger connector was changed to a minus connector because they preferred that "feel" We like this one. It's done well for our intended use. And it's fun to shoot.

I think you'll like it Gary. Diana & I have had a lot of fun during the last 7 BITB's.

Depending on availability & price, I've used 148 grain hollowbase wadcutters from Zero, Speer, Hornady and Precision Delta with good results (at least by my low standards ) I prefer Federal Small Pistol #100 primers, and have also used Winchester SLP primers. In 2014, using Speer 148 grain hollow base wadcutters, Federal Small Pistol #100 primers Chrono'd from a 6" Douglas barreled PPC revolver: 3.2 grains WW 231, 739 FPS 2.5 grains Clays, 718 FPS 2.7 grains Bullseye, 741 FPS As long as I did my part, these loads were all accurate enough to stay inside the 10 ring of a standard NRA B-27 target at 25 yards. The WW231 load did leave some powder residue under the extractor star. I used a tooth brush to clean it out every 100 or so rounds, and it was not a problem. As always, YMMV.

Thanks for taking the video. It's interesting to see what can be done with short, 5 shot strings, and still have good stages of fire (IMHO) Question: am I correct that you were both using N frame, .45 caliber Smith&Wesson revolvers for this event? Thanks.

Diana & I want to thank everyone involved in this great match, the sponsors, the range staff and crew, the BBQ cooks, and even you, Gary, the great Super Senior Single Stack Range Master Squad 209 was a great bunch to spend a good day at the range with. The stage designers did a very good job, IMHO. For a match with only ONE No-Shoot, not too much hard cover, the walls, ports, barrels, vision barriers, etc, made hitting those wide open targets a challenge. (at least for this B class shooter) I would like a few words with the evil genius who set up "Can You See Me Now?" (Stage 2) How did you create the force field around the poppers? Because something was making my perfectly aimed bullets miss the wide open poppers, over and over and over again Diana & I have been at all five Battle's In The Bluegrass, and are already planning on attending BITB-VI Thanks again to all concerned for a GREAT match.

Congratulations to both of you. Well done. Good POV camera work, showing what the stages looked like. It looked like you have some type of night sights on the S&W. If you don't mind, what are they? Thanks.

I shot PPC a lot in the mid 1980's thru 1990's, and still catch an occasional match. As it relates to USPSA and IDPA, it helps with concentration and mental focus. If you get rattled by comments from the peanut gallery while shooting a stage alone, just wait until you're on a common firing line with 20 or 30 other shooters, all firing at once, trying to focus on your target, ignoring flying brass, etc. Accuracy, both in your gun and ammo. The B-27 target 10 ring is 4" wide by 6" high, with an inner X-ring of 2 3/16" wide by 3 1/16" high. You will need to be able to hit out to 50 yards. In the 1500 aggregate of the 150 rounds fired, 48 rounds are fired at 50 yards. With a maximum of 6 rounds loaded into a magazine (Rule 10.9) you will need to be able to perform slide-lock reloads, as in IDPA. If you are using a traditional double action automatic, all strings start with the first round fired double action. Single actions (1911's) start cocked and locked, 6 rounds are fired in each string, so in a sense, a PPC match is a series of Bill drills, with par times. An example would be Stage 4 of the Stock Semi-automatic course. From the 25 yard line, 6 rounds fired kneeling using barricade, 6 rounds standing left hand barricade, 6 rounds standing right hand barricade, 18 rounds total, 90 seconds total time including reloads during stage. Skill is needed in using both hands to fire the pistol. As an example: during Stage 4 of the Stock Semi-automatic course, (the 480) the left hand barricade portion, the pistol is gripped and fired by the LEFT hand, right hand used for support. during the right hand barricade portion the pistol is gripped and fired by the RIGHT hand, left hand used for support. Kneeling, prone, sitting and barricade shooting positions are something you'll need. Power factor IS NOT an issue. Rule 3.17 (a) "All ammunition must be loaded for and produce sufficient velocity to pass through the target AND the backer Hope this helps.

"Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!" May you get the 2 Alpha's, down zero's, and all the other scores that you want. May you also NOT get the "mike's", no-shoot's, HNT's, FTN's, procedurals, etc, etc.... Take care, and hold everyone you love close, if not in your arms, in your heart.

Here we go again! Diana has already marked her calendar.

My compliments to the staff at Front Eight. An excellent rework of the magazine. SWMBO typically does not read it, but she read several articles this time, and commented on the improved look. Good job!

That wins the cool match prop award for today, IMHO!!! And BTW, you were not the only one who really doesn't like the face huggers.... Corporal Hicks would approve of your choice of bug repellent :-)

I "really" enjoyed seeing the moving platform that they used while firing the FN-FAL rifle. It brought back flashbacks of a certain "Shakey Bridge" frequently found in Ohio....

My compliments to all the match staff and crew for another excellent Battle in the Bluegrass. The food for lunch and dinner was great. In fact, I am using the lunch barbeque as my alibi for my "SLOOOOOOW" performance on the first stage I shot after lunch. I was so stuffed, sleepy, wanted a nap, that I could not keep up with those three movers, so that's why I scored "Alpha-MIKE!!!!" on all three. That's my story anyway. The stages were challenging, and when I did my part, I did well. When the loose nut behind the trigger showed up...not so well. Diana only had to do the tippy-toe stance on a couple of ports, and she got her revenge on the barrel port (where you could hear my knees squeaking thru hearing protection) Squad 16 was a fun bunch to spend a day at the range with. My thanks to the "Squad Father" for keeping our paperwork straight, and the rotation going. Diana was very happy to be called out as a "repeat offender" She made her father VERY proud of her First Place Lady Production finish. Thanks again to all concerned, the sponsor's, the staff, the crew, cooks, and any one else I might have missed. We'll be back again.

IF I copied the correct CoF's, and IF I was able to use the calculator correctly (both are questionable) the BITB-IV will have 255 scored rounds, plus the usual 8 rounds for the chronograph. Given the number of targets that I can miss with great speed :-) I am planning on packing a few more rounds then that.

124 grain Precision Delta JHP 4.1 grains Titegroup Federal Small Pistol Primer #100 (also used CCI Small Pistol) Overall length 1.130 Mixed brass (very) Velocities (2/17/2012) Sig P228 10 round average 1031 FPS/ 127.844 PF Glock 34 10 round average 1114 FPS/ 138.136 PF Glock 17 10 round average 1064 FPS/ 131.936 PF Glock 26 10 round average 1019 FPS/ 126.356 PF Note: My Sig P228 is an older model (bought in 1996) and has had over 10,000 rounds fired in it. The Glocks are newer pistols, with lower round counts. As always, test in your pistol.

Rick's revolver has always been a Colt Python with 6" barrel. (carried in a duty holster with the last 2" of the barrel sticking out of the end of the holster, for some reason) www.amctv.com has some interesting "inside Episode..." and "making of Episode..." clips on line. The clip of Season Three, Episode 8 (mid-season finale) had some info on the propmasters decisions on the firearms, and explained why full-auto fire from AK's and AR's seemed very quiet.

SWMBO's drivers licence says she is 4'10" . Her Mazda 6 seats five, and has a power drivers seat that adjusts up/down and front/back. Easy for her to get into, good visibility, and she's comfortable driving short or long trips. Since the vertically challenged also tend to have short arms, SWMBO also likes the heat&AC/radio/lights and other control layout, as they are within reach while she's driving. Grandson's car seat fits into the back, BUT the back seat passengers need to be slim and short legged, when the car seat's installed. We teat drove a bunch of cars before SWMBO decided what fit her the best. And with kids involved, I am sure that I don't have to tell you that they will want to have some input too. Good luck looking.

Could the Model 66 have been used to fire FX Simunition marking cartridges/rounds, for Force-on-Force training by a police department or other trainers? The reason I ask this is that FX Simunition rounds for .38/.357 revolvers came with a set of "safety rings" in each box of 100 rounds. FX Simunition marking cartridges have a marker(detergent based paint)filled plastic projectile, fired by a primer. Before you used your revolver for Simunitions training, an officer would insert these rings into each chamber of the revolver. The "safety rings" would prevent a live .38 special or .357 magnum cartridge from being chambered. Only the shorter Simunitions round would chamber. Loaded with Simunitions rounds, you would be able to use your duty revolver for role-playing exercises, shoot/don't shoot training, with role players. If the scenario called for shooting, the marker filled bullet showed where your hit(s) were. When the training exercise was over, the officer would remove the safety rings by using a bore brush to push the "safety ring" back out of the chamber. When the "safety rings" were removed, the revolver could be loaded with live ammunition, for duty use. And sometimes, the "safety rings" were very hard to get out of the revolver. I learned this the hard way. (retired, Federal Bureau of Prisons, firearms trainer, and yes, I fired more then a few Simunitions rounds in training exercises) Some departments had designated Simunitions training weapons, with the "safety rings" left in at all times. IF that S&W Model 66 revolver was used for this type of training, it is possible that a 'safety ring" might have been left in it.

Both SWMBO and I enjoyed this final episode. The Dueling tree with lever-actions was different, instead of the handguns that had been used in the last seasons. That looked tough, and reloading a lever action fast did not look like it would be fun for the fumble-fingered like me The shooting bar challenges (for the last three shooters) showed that sometimes you can really beat yourself. While I am not prepared to question the judgement of a 200 yard shot with the M-14, the 75 yards off-hand with a Benelli with slugs does NOT seem to be a good idea. Shooting at orange juice bottles at 75 yards off-hand, with a .45 ACP 1911??? Yes, I know that NRA Bullseye matches go out to 50 yards and the 1911 holds more then a few records there. BUT those 1911's tend to equipped with red-dot sights (except for the Distinguished matches) Also, NRA PPC matches go out to 50 yards but allow you to go prone, kneel and use a barricade. IIRC, Bianchi Cup has 50 yard stages also, but you-re allowed to go prone, or use barricades. Adding 25 more yards, and a skinny target, and that's a toughie. Chosing shooting challenges like those did show that the shooters were willing to "go big or go home" or so I think. And the miss with the Buckmark .22, I know how he felt (been there, said that, have no T-shirt) The final head-to-head match was neat. While I have no way of knowing, it did seem like the producers chose weapons that had been a problem for the shooters. The flintlock (remember the ball rolling out of Greg's barrel) the plate rack with Peacemaker's (both Chris and Greg had struggles there) the lever action versus the 3 ring target, the moving bottle rack and the Webley's... (and I like Webley's) The BAR's with exploding targets, and the cross-bow's spinning target And then there was the grenade launchers...big bang, big finish. I hope that Top Shot gets renewed. Both SWMBO and I really enjoyed seeing so many different weapons being used, with fun looking reactive targets. Shooting from half-tracks and motorcycle side cars, firing cannons, swinging on a rope like a pirate... The house drama wasn't my cup of tea, but SWMBO liked watching that too. Guns and shooters presented in a positive way, that's fun to watch, is a good thing, IMHO.

Diana & I want to thank everyone involved in BITB-III. This was our third time, and the stages just get better. Now if I can just figure out how to hit a certain last plate on the last plate rack....6 shots at one plate....really Diana's very grateful that there was only one port that she had to perform the 9MM ballet on...being vertically challenged sometimes leads to shooting in a pretty good toe-point stance. Squad Lucky 13 was fun... a CZ shooter instead of the normal tupperware, a football star, a very promising junior and his dad, a prison escapee, the video star, another MIB, and of course, MR. PIGGY!!! Tony, if you would just sloooow down, you wouldn't be so out of breath at the end of a stage I had a great time (just look at how much time i spent on some stages!!!) I was able to defend my title of High (not that sort of high ), Slow, Balding, Bi-focal wearing OLD guy in Production Division. Diana & I have been shooting together since she was 11, and it's still a father & daughter fun time for us. We started in the gun games for the shooting, and stay because of the people we play with. Thank you again, Corey, Mike, Gary, Hill of Beans BBQ, Bluegrass Sportsmans, Chuck, and everyone involved. So when do we sign up for BITB-IV?

Along with the Enfield's, I really enjoyed seeing the Webley's. Quite a few years ago I had the loan of a Webley Mark VI that had been converted from .455 to .45ACP. By milling off the rear of the cylinder, to accept moon clips, .45ACP ammo could be used. Yes, now I know that it was defacing a collectable, the bore diameter wasn't quite right for .45ACP with .451 diameter full metal jacket ammo, and that the pressure of .45ACP is greater then what the revolver was designed for. Still, I had no problems with the revolver, it was fun to shoot, and at least as accurate as my standard issue S&W Model 10 was. It seemed very fast on the reload with the break-open extraction and ejection of empties. In single action, the trigger was smooth. In double action, loooooooooong and hard. I can see why most of the shooters chose to use the single action.

It depends, for me, on the game that I am playing. During the 1980's/1990's when I was spending a lot of trigger time at PPC matches, I used double action (DA) trigger for all my STRONG HAND shooting. BUT (and there is always a but) at both the 25 and 50 yard lines, there is a part of the barricade stage that is fired with the WEAK hand. During those stages (18 shots at 25 yard and and 24 shots at 50 yards) you will fire "6 shots standing left hand from behind the barricade; and 6 shots standing right hand from behind the barricade." (NRA Police Pistol Combat Rules) I am left handed, so when I had to fire "right hand from behind the barricade" that meant that I was firing with my weak hand at either 25 or 50 yards. I found that (for me) cocking the hammer and firing single action for those 6 shots with the weak hand, resulted in more 9 and 10 ring hits at 25 or 50 yards. Granted the time limits for those stages is very generous (90 seconds for 25 yards and 2 minutes, 45 seconds for 50 yards) In USPSA revolver shooting, where I hold a "B" classification, I fire all my shots double action only. I can only recall a few shots that I had to take at distances past 20 yards, and the A-zone of a USPSA target is a much larger scoring area then the 10-ring of a B-27 target. In IDPA Stock Service Revolver, Sharpshooter classification, I fire all my shots double action. Ranges in IDPA are almost always short, and again the -0 zone of an IDPA target is a large area. (That doesn't mean I can't miss the whole target )

The RULE about (fill in the blank) is B***S@@@ and I won't play because of that. There are too many/not enough/I don't understand the RULES and I can't/won't figure out what to do. Drawing from the holster is too dangerous. Shooting that fast is too dangerous. Moving with a firearm in your hand(s) is too dangerous. That sort of target/syle of shooting looks bad, like we want to shoot people. I don't have the right gun/holster/ammo/magazines/speedloaders/belt/shoes/eye & ear protection/clothes/gun bag for that game. I could shoot that well IF I was sponsored/had free ammo/reloaded ammo/was the range officer/firearms instructor/whatever. I don't like to compete. I just shoot for fun.