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Holy old topic Batman! This was from 2010...

Quit the sport???? Really???? Because some people who like this sport don't agree with changing the sport, they should quit. That's a ridiculous premise. Why shouldn't the majority of members be permitted to self-regulate what they want and what they don't want in the sport. If this provisional division does not garner majority support, the experiment will fail and should result in the removal of the provisional division. On the other hand, if a majority of members like it, it should become a division in our sport and we should move on.

Since it's a provisional division, shouldn't the membership decide whether or not it should go forward?

It's up to the MD's. We already sometimes have revo/production matches. We have Single Stack Nationals, Production Nationals, etc. So, it's clear that we have matches where only certain divisions are represented. If an MD or club decides to only have matches with certain divisions, I believe that is completely within their discretion. Very simple, if you don't like what divisions are offered, don't shoot at that club, don't give them your money, find a club that caters to what you want to shoot.

For anyone who doesn't think that a stage is "practical" or within the confines of what they want to see in a stage (particularly those who didn't make any effort to design stages or work matches), I have a very simple solution. Don't shoot the stage. If you really believe in what you are saying, you can decide to simply not compete on that particular stage - take your zero points - and move along to the next stage of the match. No harm, no foul. Either stand up for what you believe or simply shoot the stage, be safe, have fun, and be appreciative of those people who worked hard to put together thought provoking and challenging shooting scenarios for your enjoyment. ...back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Each round of shooters (all three stages) took approximately 3-4 minutes (so basically a little more than one minute per shooter/per stage). The RO's were actively monitoring the time. Which in my opinion isn't bad at all considering all that has to be completed from "Make Ready" to scoring and resetting the stage. Also add in 5 minutes for a walk-through and a few situations that required more time (scoring challenges, gun malfunctions, re-shoots, etc). So all in it generally took about 1 hour per stage. I suspect that most people experienced no more than 3 hours to shoot the 3 stages.

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Go with Cheely for sure. He's built several for me. You'll be glad you did!! Well worth the wait

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Yikes!

What about using mini-paper targets at 25 yards, which would have the basic effect of a target at 50 yards.

So, playing Devil's Advocate - if I was practicing my draws and aimed one foot to the side of the no-shoot target, but was still pointed in a safe direction, what rule would you cite to DQ me?

Agree with Jake. Great squad! I had a very good time.

I say, if they want to make it difficult, move on. Here is a suggestion for a group that supports families of Police Officers killed in the line of duty. I have contacts at the organization if you are interested. http://www.nationalcops.org/

I think this ship has sailed.

I agree with unload and show clear between stages. Very simple - no new rules or stage commands required. As I've been told in the past, it's best to "keep it simple stupid" - it's the KISS method!

I will probably be shooting limited minor for a while until I get accurate enough to shoot production if that makes any difference in terms of best weight. You are already "accurate enough" to shoot Production. The question is - are you patient enough to see what you need to see to be confident in your ability to shoot A's. Ask yourself this question, if you aren't on the clock, can you hit the A-zone? If the answer is yes, YOU are accurate enough. My suggestion is to shoot Production and use the 147's or whatever else you personally like the feel of when shooting. Happy and safe shooting.

Try contacting Speed Shooters Specialities. (they are a forum dealer and will be fast to respond)

Do you actually know the exact percentages or rate of return and do you know the actual rate of return for all other gun manufacturers to make your comparison - or is your comment only based on speculation and on what you've heard from a handful of owners? I expect that those who frequent this forum make up a very minimal amount of the overall M&P owners. My M&Ps have worked quite well.

And above everything else - be safe!!!

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