MemphisMechanic

I believe you have to modify the back of the trigger dingus.

Worldwide, gun companies do weird things it seems.

Slide to frame play isn’t a huge concern; if the barrel is fitted tightly into the slide it’ll be an accurate shooter. The sights move with the slide. Tanfoglio is highly erratic when it comes to things like fitting slides. One gun will be super tight, the following serial number will have as much play as a high-mileage Glock. Barrel to slide fit, or a sear cage beginning to loosen in the frame, would be more likely issues with a high mileage gun. Take a look at the locking lugs in front of the ejection port in the barrel and slide, and see how much you can wiggle the sear cage around when the hammer is back. That said, I’d already have bought the gun.

We are still waiting for the puke green version. Unless your last name is Stoeger you can’t get one over here.

The RMRs only sellings points are durability & battery life. Lousy glass clarity, lacks a crisp dot, small window, fat frame blocking your view. The DOP is better at everything you care about in a gaming gun.

Take long deep breaths at the buzzer and as you enter each shooting position. I’ll frequently carry the mindset of backing my agression off 10% ... and letting the first stage be a second or two slower than I’m capable of. Basically, give myself permssion to relax just a hair. Ironically, I tend to do exceptionally well and often come close to a stage win . My only expectation for stage 1 is: Don’t dig a hole you have to spend the rest of the match climbing out of.

speedslide.com edit: looks like it’s invalid. Leaving the link in case the site is just temporarily down.

It did, when they reconfigured the classifier percentages. Around August I think? El Prez got waaay harder in PCC. PCC is a lot harder to make M in than it was last summer.

Why? Around here stages haven’t changed at all. At least once a match I have to swap the rifle to the oppsite shoulder *AND* still shoot falling out of bounds, or very close to doing so. Mind elaborating on that?

It won’t be. It’s got “M&P” on the side and no APEX barrel installed.

Not if Patriot does a good polishing job; when you get it, everything inside will probably look like a mirror. Hard to get smoother than that, so you probably won’t see much change I haven’t seen a gun they’ve worked on in person. But I’d be surprised if that isn’t the case.

Yours will run like a champ if they worked it over! My comments were in reference to those of us who take delivery of a stock gun and fit & tune it ourselves. Learning how the gun works... the hard way.

I now disagree. Strongly. Those of us who only had experience with the 550 and 650 worried about this because we had lifetime warranties, and the 550 and 650 feel similar. So why go to a “beefed up 650” and lose the warranty? That changes when you operate a 1050 once. I looked back over at my old 650 expecting to see a Fischer Price logo on it; it feels like a children’s toy in comparison. A recreational user who loads to feed his USPSA hobby is not going to wear things out the way they did on the 650. Which, to be fair, is already a premium recreational press and rather tough. Sure, if you do bust something you may have to pay for it, but it’s worth it to have this machine around. Wish I’d upgraded from a 650 years earlier.

@Fasthenk65 honestly the appeal of a Tanfo over a CZ is the badge of mechnical competence that comes with running a flawless one at a match with a great trigger. You do that, and everyone knows you’re more mechanically inclined than a Shadow 2 owner. And M&P shooters? We’re surprised when their shoes stay tied for the duration of the match. They can barely work the knots, after all.

Deltapoint Pro footprint. Good choice. Swipe to the right to see the other side.

Some of your local ranges might concieveably be okay with option 2. On match day, every RO on the planet will be okay with option 1, and this is the correct way to do things. Given your final statement, choose the first procedure to get your rifle flagged and secured in your cart.

I would wager that if most of us are honest, we haven’t fired ours at a target beyond 25-35. Mine is a local match toy exclusivlely. So it’s built for 90% of it’s shooting to occur inside of 15 yds.

There is... in a roundabout way. There isn’t if you take things literally. This has now been clarified twice in detail. Let’s stop, and move on to more interesting stuff related to Welfare Open Minor.

Lightened slides shoot flatter. But have more recoil. Or more precisely, they have a snappier recoil impulse. I can verify this based upon my Swiss Cheese PPQ I run in Crappy Optics, with 3oz missing from the slide. A bill drill happens with the dot spending a lot more time in the window than my buddies’ X5, but it feels like it has twice the recoil, and even with a tungsten-filled backstrap the gun is only 26 ounces. Lots of guys get that slide weight thing mixed up. They want a soft shooting gun. Soft doesn’t matter: how flat it shoots is what matters. How easily the sights can be tracked at speed. Difference versus a Stock 2? Almost exactly nothing. But they had to do something to steal some of the market back from the vast majority of guys who are choosing the Shadow 2 when ditching their plastic guns. Catering to things which are percieved as being better, and thus they have to be. I am quite certain that it will take every bit as much work, based upon Tanfo’s extensive track record.

And now we know. Lightened slide, that mass moved to the frame via the addition of a rail, etc. Sell your Stock 2s, or come in last. Your choice.

@DB_Cooper at $1400 a lot of guys are still going to run an X-Five. It might chip into the number of CZs and Tanfos getting milled for red dots though. The guns being run by guys who are set on heavy steel frames, plus getting a Stock 2 or Shadow2 down to legal weight will total $1400 once you factor in the gun, triggerjob, and machinework.

Minus connector, trigger spring, and a whole lot of practice. Talk to your B class locals and you’ll get a litany of $200 triggerjob options. Talk to the GMs, and they’ll recommend $30 in parts, and practicing with it 30 minutes per day.

Won’t change anything. The first thing these guys would do? Pull both match results up on practisore and see who won the whole thing. Just like before.

That’s what it’s all about. An exposed handgun or rifle, with chamber flagged or slide locked back? Subjectively it feels less safe to have the bore swung across your body than if that weapon is inside a zipped-shut case where you cannot visually confirm it’s operating state. Cleared a handgun in the safe area, hammer down, then slid it deeply inside a range bag which is zipped shut. Then pick the bag up, turn around, and wave farewell to your buddies. You just swept the muzzle across every last one of them and no one is going to bat an eye. Yup.

Agreed. It shoots lights out - in my PCC and all of my handguns, it is noticeably tighter than my coated and plated loads. And it’s the same price as an FMJ in sufficient quantity. You’ll have no problem with 1.125 in a barrel that Patriot has reworked.