NHCTR Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I am looking for matches that are offering Heavy Tactical Optics Division. DPMS called it Tactical Class-Scoped Heavy Rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 DPMS and FN/CMMG match are all that I am aware of. RM3G offers an optic HM class but not a Heavy Tactical class. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I think R&R had something similar for their match. I didn't make it this year though so I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truegent2004 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 MGM Ironman has the DPMS Heavy Rifle Division. I would like to see more matches with it since I ordered on of their 308 Lites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 MGM Ironman has the DPMS Heavy Rifle Division. I would like to see more matches with it since I ordered on of their 308 Lites. This will be the third year we have done it. We get a pretty good turnout, and it makes hitting the long targets a lot easier on a windy day!! Adios, TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benelli Chick Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'm on a roll tonight! Ya'll just got me all riled up! (Well, not this thread, but I'm just up to type!) In my mind, if you want to shoot a .308, but not the other "heavy" guns because you think it's an advantage, I think you should do so. At Rocky Mountain, you'll just be in tactical. But, let's be honest, if I didn't mind the expensive ammo and the heavier gun (I have enough old and tired issues with my little, light weight Sabre .223 (that's me being old and tired, not my awesome rifle)) I would think .308 would be an advantage at Rocky Mountain. There is not a lot of short range rifle, you're shooting at long range targets a lot. If you want to shoot just heavy rifle within tactical division, ours would be the match to do it. There are a few shooters that do this, and it seems to work for them! As a match director, I can't see adding another class. It seems that it would probably take people away from our smallest classes already. That's my opinion, and I just feel like sharing! I wonder what other threads I can comment on?!?!?! I'm on a roll! Denise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 FYI .308s offer no advantage over .223s, even on long range targets and even on windy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 FYI .308s offer no advantage over .223s, even on long range targets and even on windy days. YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO TELL ANYONE THAT!!! I WAS TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT!!! Adios, TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Unless you just WANT to shoot that type of gun/caliber. I have a scoped DPMS .308 that I break out every once in a while for fun. I am not the type of shooter who is going to dominate a match, but it is fun to try out a different type of blaster every so often. Hell, isn't that why so many of us have equipment for production, lim10, SS, limited, and open---and use them all even though you show a definate preference for a particular division? Even though .223 is cheaper, easier, and will do anything .308 will in a match setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGDM Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I am having a Heavy Class, 7.62, for the LaRue Match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I am having a Heavy Class, 7.62, for the LaRue Match. Scopes OK? Mag capacity limitations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 FYI .308s offer no advantage over .223s, even on long range targets and even on windy days. Even at the MGM with rifle targets out at 600+ yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Will the kinetic energy of a BB gun activate a flasher at 600 yards? That is about what the 55s I shoot in my .223 have left at that range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGDM Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yes Sir, scopes are good and you can use a magnifier with yer EO sight. 45 round mag limit. Adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt1 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We have a "heavy metal optics" class at our rifle match at Steel City in Birmingham. I specifically wanted to include this division because I thought there would be a good many people who'd like to shoot their AR-10s, but didn't want to be restricted to iron sights (myself included). We structured the scoring of our match to put 308's on equal footing with 223's and for the most part, it's worked. At our big match last March, there were 2 308's in the top 5 spots in optics. The class has had varying degrees of interest but, suprisingly, is almost always has the fewest # of shooters of the four classes we shoot (minor optics, minor irons, HM optics, HM irons). This was a suprise to me. Perhaps with more people picking up the DPMS 308's there will be more folks shooting them with scopes in competition. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt1 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yes Sir, scopes are good and you can use a magnifier with yer EO sight. 45 round mag limit.Adios What type of shot distances are you considering for the rifle stages Greg? Looking forward to shooting this match! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Reid Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Maybe this a little off track but I've found a guy through the forums who actually makes a 28 round .308 mag from 2-19 rounders. Is there any ruling against this in HM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschoon Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 this year the R&R only had a small number of heavy shooters therefore they had to combine heavy metal and heavy tac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 FYI .308s offer no advantage over .223s, even on long range targets and even on windy days. Even at the MGM with rifle targets out at 600+ yards? Not unless you are knocking something down or activiating something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccur Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Maybe this a little off track but I've found a guy through the forums who actually makes a 28 round .308 mag from 2-19 rounders. Is there any ruling against this in HM? I, too, would like to know the answer...Kelly, anybody??? Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 20 rounds MAX in a mag is about the ONLY universal rule in Heavy Metal. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 20 rounds MAX in a mag is about the ONLY universal rule in Heavy Metal.Patrick You might want to check some of the wording on some of the rules for some of the major matches there Mr. Kelly....much to MY dismay, it is not so universal Some actually talk about MAX capacity of the magazine as well.....OOPS!!!!...well, plugging always comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I have only attended and few major 3 gun matches in the last few years but can not think of one that would allow more than 20+1. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 good He-man 3 gunner are you, good reader of rules you are not!!! (Yoda....Star Wars, my version!!!) And yes....it will pain you when you find out what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHCTR Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 good He-man 3 gunner are you, good reader of rules you are not!!! (Yoda....Star Wars, my version!!!)And yes....it will pain you when you find out what I did. Major match rules seem to be the same - this is typical wording for this class from the rules used at DPMS, seems clear, 20 rnds 6.4.5 Tactical Class-Heavy – Similar to Tactical Class scoped, but the shooter must use a .260 or larger caliber for the entire match. Handguns/shotguns must comply with Tactical Class rules. Magazine capacity is not to exceed 20 rounds in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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