zhunter Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) First let's assume that most stages are 8 round friendly, since most are these days. Edited November 3, 2008 by zhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ38super Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I voted for extra reload, but it really depends on stage layout. I miss a lot and can't seem to count to 8 either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisStock Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 In my opinion, get the pain over with now to get back on track with your mental plan for the stage. I mean you DID run through the COF in your head a few times, right? get back to 8+1 so that the rest of it is not hosed up and you have a prayer of pulling it out of the dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Depends. OK - what AZ said..... Are there 8 shots required at the next position? If so how hard/long are the shots. How far to the 3rd position from the second? etc. etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 In theory.. I like the extra re-load... but in practice.. if it's only a short distance to the next shooting spot... will you really have enough presence of mind to think about this and then get the reload done??? Probably not! I think it would make a difference how far it is to the next shooting position and how many targts are remaining. In my very first Single Stack Classic.. I got carried away with my reloads in a VERY long field course and ran out of mags with two targets remaining I always had a full gun when I arrived at a good shooting position but lost all that time while digging my Barney mag out to complete the COF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I do both quite regularly depending on the stages. Yesterday for example we had 3 arrays of 8. The 1st array went as planed but the second had head shots only and I put one over the head. Knowing the 3rd array had 8 shots with 4 poppers and 2 close paper I just trusted my sights shot the stage and finished at slide lock. Plus there wasn't enough time in between arrays to do the make up reload. With that being said at OH 2 weekends ago I shot a stage with 3 nine shot arrays....yeah fun huh. 1st array go to slide lock, reload, then going into a very narrow port at the second array I could shoot the activator steel, a paper, then swinger and bang a quick reload as I'm leaning in to get the last 2 paper. So I have 4 round in the gun right. Coming into the last array I pop the activator steel through the port before getting there, static paper, reload before the swinger gets to full swing and hit it and finish the stage. I always carry 6 mags on my belt and one in the gun. If the stage will allow me to do the make up reload, I.E. I have enough time to do so before I get to the next shooting position I will. If the next shooting position is close and not 9 rounds I won't. If its 9 rounds then you almost have to do the make up reload unless you can spread out the rounds or work a static while not hurting yourself to bad. Wow...hope all that made sense lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'm going to slow down a hair and get the rest of my hits on the stage rather than blow 1.5 seconds doing an extra reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket35 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Yeah- I guess it would depend. I voted go with 7+1, unless there is steel in the next array... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 I normally will go with 7+1 unless there are US Poppers or Plates in the next array. If it is only paper or Poppers, I will just slow down a smidge and get my hits like Matt said, but I don't think a reload on the move cost 1.5 seconds either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superman Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I can't see burning the time for an extra reload. I don't have enough rounds on my belt to dump a full mag on the ground. Better to go to slide lock on the next array and keep pressing forward. BTW, I wouldn't assume 8 shot arrays. Yesterday I complained about a stage with two ten shot arrays (both arrays had to be taken from below waist level) which forced me to do two static reloads while kneeling. I was quickly chastised for bitching and reminded that it was my choice to show up with an 8 round gun. Ain't no 8 round friendly where I shoot. You bring your open gun or cowboy up and deal with it. I guess I'll deal with it. It will only make me better. Tls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Ain't no 8 round friendly where I shoot.You bring your open gun or cowboy up and deal with it. I shot revolver for the past two seasons and what's 8 round friendly for a SS is a bitch for a wheel gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'm going to slow down a hair and get the rest of my hits on the stage rather than blow 1.5 seconds doing an extra reload. exactly, Matt beat me to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I voted for alternative A, although it will be subject to what's waiting for me after that reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Yesterday I complained about a stage with two ten shot arrays (both arrays had to be taken from below waist level) which forced me to do two static reloads while kneeling.I was quickly chastised for bitching and reminded that it was my choice to show up with an 8 round gun. Ain't no 8 round friendly where I shoot. You bring your open gun or cowboy up and deal with it. I guess I'll deal with it. It will only make me better. Tls Being jerks about it is not good for the sport. Many clubs are "run" by Open shooters, 2 that I shoot at in FL are this way. Sure, you showed up with an 8-shooter, and yes, 10 round arrays are fine, let's face it, SS'ers are NOT competing against anyone but fellow SS'ers, so it is really all equal. But...... Kneeling reloads at NO FUN, I don't care what gun ya brung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superman Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) Yesterday I complained about a stage with two ten shot arrays (both arrays had to be taken from below waist level) which forced me to do two static reloads while kneeling.I was quickly chastised for bitching and reminded that it was my choice to show up with an 8 round gun. Ain't no 8 round friendly where I shoot. You bring your open gun or cowboy up and deal with it. I guess I'll deal with it. It will only make me better. Tls Being jerks about it is not good for the sport. Many clubs are "run" by Open shooters, 2 that I shoot at in FL are this way. Sure, you showed up with an 8-shooter, and yes, 10 round arrays are fine, let's face it, SS'ers are NOT competing against anyone but fellow SS'ers, so it is really all equal. But...... Kneeling reloads at NO FUN, I don't care what gun ya brung No matter. Nobody likes to squad with a shooter that's always whining and I don't want to become that guy. I made my point, so I'm just going to shut up and shoot. [sorry for the drift] we now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Tls Edited November 3, 2008 by 38superman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 two reloads is pretty straightforward stuff.. if I'm going to face steel in any of the next arrays..I will get up to 8+1. no doubt. if I am looking at paper only..I may just do the one..and shoot to slidelock on the upcoming arrays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 For the guys that are worried about the steel on the next array. If your worried about the steel that much does that is that extra round really going to help you? If I'm going into a 8 shot array with a star and 3 plates, and I only have 8 rounds and I'm worried about that star, might as well man up and either go 1 for 1. If you don't more than likely your going to need more than one extra shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket35 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 For the guys that are worried about the steel on the next array. If your worried about the steel that much does that is that extra round really going to help you? If I'm going into a 8 shot array with a star and 3 plates, and I only have 8 rounds and I'm worried about that star, might as well man up and either go 1 for 1. If you don't more than likely your going to need more than one extra shot. Insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'll vote for option "X" "pull the pin and toss the grenade" !! Hop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I want to know who can "think" about doing an extra reload during a COF when the fastest way to run a stage is to run your plan. I'm not doing anything extra that I haven't programmed in unless I've already TOTALLY blew the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 For the guys that are worried about the steel on the next array. If your worried about the steel that much does that is that extra round really going to help you? If I'm going into a 8 shot array with a star and 3 plates, and I only have 8 rounds and I'm worried about that star, might as well man up and either go 1 for 1. If you don't more than likely your going to need more than one extra shot. Insurance I can see doing it in production but is that one round worth the 1.5 seconds or so it will take to do the reload when you could use your 8 shots then do the reload IF needed? I mean you already have to do 1 reload, then you have to bang the second before getting there all for 1 round. I guess for me it boils down to, if I have the time to do 2 reload between the positions. If I have time to do them both while running flat out to that position that is 3 seconds away yeah maybe. More than likely I'm going to try to make the most of those 7 rounds before I dump them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think I said that in post 5. Thanks Matt. It's always great having a world class shooter confirming your thoughts:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 personally don't think doing the extra reload is that big a deal..maybe its because I have been shooting production..but its not that hard to program..when you get behind, you stuff the reload and get back on plan. shooting single stack is like shooting revolver..its virginia count.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I agree with most on the "Depends" statement, but I can say when shooting Revo on long field courses, that if I took extra shots that were not planned. I would do an extra reload to get back on track with my planned strategy. If not , it seemed to all go down hill in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) personally don't think doing the extra reload is that big a deal..maybe its because I have been shooting production..but its not that hard to program..when you get behind, you stuff the reload and get back on plan.shooting single stack is like shooting revolver..its virginia count.. In revolver you typically do a lot of standing reloads anyway do to stage design anyway. In revo you always shoot to slide lock anyway and you don't have a chamber to hold that all precious extra round when dropping the mag so it isn't quite the same in my opinion. Anyway, I'll stick to my make my hits count plan like I did yesterday Edited November 3, 2008 by steel1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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