1911vm Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Is their any thing else besides AR platform that is still competitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Is their any thing else besides AR platform that is still competitive? An M1A or AR10 for Heavy Metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 DSA FAL got it . looking for somthing with small holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 DSA FAL got it . looking for somthing with small holes You won't find anything better than an AR then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Like Dan said, the AR has it just about wrapped up, for small holes. There are some die hards out there who can and do compete with other platforms such as the Mini 14 or even the Keltec carbines, the SIG 556 (I have one, sometimes bring it as a back up to my AR match rifle) ect. But, most feel that for the price point and available options and upgrades the AR is the ticket. Think of the AR as a Chevy small block: every one and their grandmother makes parts for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbine Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Like Dan said, the AR has it just about wrapped up, for small holes. There are some die hards out there who can and do compete with other platforms such as the Mini 14 or even the Keltec carbines, the SIG 556 (I have one, sometimes bring it as a back up to my AR match rifle) ect. But, most feel that for the price point and available options and upgrades the AR is the ticket. Think of the AR as a Chevy small block: every one and their grandmother makes parts for them. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Got a guy who shoots our CBS 3 Gun matches with a lever action 30-30. Yes I am serious. He does not usually come in last either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Mini 14's with accuracy work can come close.. but they end up costing more for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshowbob Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think ARs have the best combination of ergonomics and price. The only thing that may come close is a Sig 556, but they are a bit heavier. Even if we could choose ANY gun out there. Well, even though I have not handled one and it is basically an AR, the HK 416 seems to come close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 556 would be good but in my state it is elegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 As others have said, It's pretty hard to beat the AR. Configure it any way you want, parts are relatively cheap, and there is a HUGE aftermarket. Beware--the darned things are addictive. I've got 4 of them at last count, each one configured for a different purpose. Can other guns be competitive? Well maybe. I shot my first few 3 gun matches with a D model SKS Sporter--the one that takes AK mags. Did pretty well with it, but nothing was further than 150 yds. I know one shooter that uses a M1 carbine. He really knows how to run it, does well as long as ranges are short. Know another that uses a MI Garand. Not really competitive, but it's what he has and it looks like he has a lot of fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 For close up stuff...that little 30 carbine is rockin puppy all around for close stuff and out to 500yds...Th AR15 platform would be VERY hard to beat. There are rifles out there that can do the job...but all seem to have some short coming when compaired to the AR It may be cost ..or mags ..or optic issues...it seems they all fall short in some area I have to agree the AR IS the small block of rifles Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on the match. Around here all we have to work with are pistol bays. I got by with a 9mm Mech-Tech carbine attachment on my Glock 17 for almost 2 years before I decided I "needed" an AR. I've still never shot a match where I really needed it, although I hope to make it down to Corpus some day at least! It's more about the cool factor at the moment and I apparently felt I wasn't spending enough on ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on the match. Around here all we have to work with are pistol bays. I got by with a 9mm Mech-Tech carbine attachment on my Glock 17 for almost 2 years before I decided I "needed" an AR. I've still never shot a match where I really needed it, although I hope to make it down to Corpus some day at least! It's more about the cool factor at the moment and I apparently felt I wasn't spending enough on ammo. Good idea I have one just need a couple 33round mags and I am good to go. Are you running optic on that and if yes which one. Also what kind of accuracy are you getting with that thing. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on the match. Around here all we have to work with are pistol bays. I got by with a 9mm Mech-Tech carbine attachment on my Glock 17 for almost 2 years before I decided I "needed" an AR. I've still never shot a match where I really needed it, although I hope to make it down to Corpus some day at least! It's more about the cool factor at the moment and I apparently felt I wasn't spending enough on ammo. Mike, sunday the 24th we are gonna shoot carbines about 9:30, be 5 stages, short, quich and nasty. Or we are haveing 3 gun the 31st. Like to see you here.-----------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Good idea I have one just need a couple 33round mags and I am good to go.Are you running optic on that and if yes which one. Also what kind of accuracy are you getting with that thing. Thanks At the time, I was using one of the Simmons Pro Diamonds. A C-more or a cheap Simmons red dot would probably be just fine for pistol bay stages. I never shot the thing past 50 yards and it'll hold a good group inside of that. I had a few 33 round mags and I was runnin' around with the ARs just fine! I sold that setup when I got the AR, but kinda wished I'd kept it around now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on the match. Around here all we have to work with are pistol bays. I got by with a 9mm Mech-Tech carbine attachment on my Glock 17 for almost 2 years before I decided I "needed" an AR. I've still never shot a match where I really needed it, although I hope to make it down to Corpus some day at least! It's more about the cool factor at the moment and I apparently felt I wasn't spending enough on ammo. Mike, sunday the 24th we are gonna shoot carbines about 9:30, be 5 stages, short, quich and nasty. Or we are haveing 3 gun the 31st. Like to see you here.-----------Larry I'll be at the TX State Limited the 24th. 31st...maybe. Ya'll have a email list I can get on? I've been wanting to get down there. I need to get that AR out and see if I can hit anything past 100 yards sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Is their any thing else besides AR platform that is still competitive? Uhhhhhh........... No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Depends on the match. Around here all we have to work with are pistol bays. I got by with a 9mm Mech-Tech carbine attachment on my Glock 17 for almost 2 years before I decided I "needed" an AR. I've still never shot a match where I really needed it, although I hope to make it down to Corpus some day at least! It's more about the cool factor at the moment and I apparently felt I wasn't spending enough on ammo. Mike, sunday the 24th we are gonna shoot carbines about 9:30, be 5 stages, short, quich and nasty. Or we are haveing 3 gun the 31st. Like to see you here.-----------Larry I'll be at the TX State Limited the 24th. 31st...maybe. Ya'll have a email list I can get on? I've been wanting to get down there. I need to get that AR out and see if I can hit anything past 100 yards sometime! Mike, on their website http://www.cbshooters.com/ click on the Contact button and you will see a link to join the mailing list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irq23 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I do not think anyone has mentioned this yet, but if we ever see the Magpul Masada/ Busmaster ACR it could be a viable platform. It is a true ambi gun with all the nice ergo points of the AR plus a few things that are better IMO (charging handle). Last I heard they moved the release date to 1Q 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 I do not think anyone has mentioned this yet, but if we ever see the Magpul Masada/ Busmaster ACR it could be a viable platform. It is a true ambi gun with all the nice ergo points of the AR plus a few things that are better IMO (charging handle). Last I heard they moved the release date to 1Q 2009. 1st Q 09 in gun industry means 4th Q 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenchu74 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I used a Robinson Armament XCR in a local match and did quite well. Piston driven and reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsaxdog Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 i realize this is sacriledge, but if i could get a cheap source of reloadable brass, i betcha i could get an AK-47 to rock. surplus 7.72x39 is generally pretty skanky stuff. shot some pretty good groups, equal to or better than commercial .223 w/some winchester white box stuff that i got on a dealio, just hate to shoot it all up and lose the brass at matches, so it just sits there. i have a VEPR that's really a nice gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Sacriledge indeed. I recomend you stick with the Garand Dave. I think those 7.72 rounds might get jammed in the 7.62 chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 i realize this is sacriledge, but if i could get a cheap source of reloadable brass, i betcha i could get an AK-47 to rock. surplus 7.72x39 is generally pretty skanky stuff. shot some pretty good groups, equal to or better than commercial .223 w/some winchester white box stuff that i got on a dealio, just hate to shoot it all up and lose the brass at matches, so it just sits there. i have a VEPR that's really a nice gun. The AK works well up close but after you extend it out past 200 yards it becomes quite frustrating as those who shot the Ft Benning 3 gun with an AK can attest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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