kurtm Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 This last weekend I got to see and shoot the new R&R rifle targets at the CMMG 3-gun Match. These things are great!! It is like a plate rack with a big white backer and can be reset with a long piece of para cord out to 400 yards or so! They are a falling plate, so no longer will there be the interface between an R.O. and a shooter calling hits!! It is either down or it is not!! The big white backer makes Iron Sight shooting a dream and the falling plates make it very apperent if it was hit or not. I feel that these things are the wave of the future for 3-gun. Kurt Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I agree, I mentioned them in the post about the FN match. and would really like to see these targets or something similar used for LR rifle. It definetly eliminates problems between RO's and shooters with regard to calling hits and knowing the shooters order of target engagment, if the shooter hit the target and it didn't go down, then its not a hit, just like LaRue targets only these come with a contrasting background. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I was wondering what those plate racks were doing in the R&R match rifle stage descriptions !!! Anybody have a pic or video ?? What size are the plates ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 plate size looked like 12ish inches, I reset the ones used at 250 and they were very easy. Rack width looked to be 4feetish. all in all a very well thought out item!!!!! Trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 What about the backer material? Doesn't it get chewed up pretty badly over the course of a match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Payne Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'll try to post a photo from Stage #8 at the Midwest 3-gun shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 This is good stuff!!! It just kills you when the RO is looking at the wrong target...and dont call your hits Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 looking forward to shooting them at R&R...but i can already hear a certain bunch of folks complaining about not being able to see where their rounds are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 the backer doesn't get chewed up because we all make our hits. it looked to be in pretty good shape on the last stage I shot, and we were the last group to use it on that particular stage. Even if it needs to be replaced at the end of the day, so what!!! it is not big enough to cause the missers that are concerned with where their bullets are going, any grief. I did not hear any complaints from people missing, that they wished they could see the misses, but then a particular BE'r didn't make the match. Trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPD SRT Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 the backer doesn't get chewed up because we all make our hits. it looked to be in pretty good shape on the last stage I shot, and we were the last group to use it on that particular stage. Even if it needs to be replaced at the end of the day, so what!!! it is not big enough to cause the missers that are concerned with where their bullets are going, any grief. I did not hear any complaints from people missing, that they wished they could see the misses, but then a particular BE'r didn't make the match. Trapr Those look fun to shoot!!! I guess I'll see them in about a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I shot those at the X3 3Gun in Piru a while ago. They were cool, but they gave us problems when trying to reset them. The big plastic baking acted like a sail in the 10MPH winds and make it very difficult to reset. We broke the cords a few times just on our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 There were some complaints at the X3 match in them not going down with 55's unless hit just right (i.e. the top). I guess this wasn't happening at CMMG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 There were some complaints at the X3 match in them not going down with 55's unless hit just right (i.e. the top).I guess this wasn't happening at CMMG? I shot them with 68s at the X3 and they fell, no problem. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Yes... with 68's and 69's they went down. But with 55's? After shooting them with 55's a notable shooter was griping about them for what seemed like houurrrsss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 So you quit griping after a few hours??????????????? Is that the targets fault or the shooter? seems to me that if 55gr bullets will reliably take down LaRue's at 400yds, then there should be no problem with these plates. They weigh less!!!!! trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 They went down (smartly) with the 168 SMKs I was shooting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Payne Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 The only complaint I could see on these targets is that if you have a CHEATER WHO SHOOTS THE FRAME WITH HIS .308 AND KNOCKS DOWN ALL THREE PLATES WITH ONE SHOT!. (the last part in all caps to give kudos to the squad mate who did this. Next one is on me Merlin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 The only complaint I could see on these targets is that if you have a CHEATER WHO SHOOTS THE FRAME WITH HIS .308 AND KNOCKS DOWN ALL THREE PLATES WITH ONE SHOT!. (the last part in all caps to give kudos to the squad mate who did this. Next one is on me Merlin). There are times when major PF in a rifle does pay dividends.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Edited June 11, 2008 by ken hebert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 The only complaint I could see on these targets is that if you have a CHEATER WHO SHOOTS THE FRAME WITH HIS .308 AND KNOCKS DOWN ALL THREE PLATES WITH ONE SHOT!. (the last part in all caps to give kudos to the squad mate who did this. Next one is on me Merlin). It's funny how some guys can knock down all the plates with one big bullet and other guys can't knock down one plate with many little bullets. Looks like someone needs to get bigger bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I also shot these at the X3 match. I had no problem when I shot my 55 grains. As noted there were some issues with reset. The backing was kinda flexible which sometimes got caught in the frame which made it fold over. If it was stiffer it may be better. I would use something stronger than para-cord. Good targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Another target that R&R came up with is a .22rf skin for their flash targets.....very cool and anyone (pretty much everyone) at the FNH match that shot the 22rf side match shot those flash targets. Very reactive at 50yards. I did try them at longer distances and they seemed to work well too!! The really cool thing is.....if you already have one of R&R's flash targets, all you need is a new skin and you are good to go for .22rf, .22mg and 5.7 even. They fit right in the bases!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJRiddle Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 The only complaint I could see on these targets is that if you have a CHEATER WHO SHOOTS THE FRAME WITH HIS .308 AND KNOCKS DOWN ALL THREE PLATES WITH ONE SHOT!. (the last part in all caps to give kudos to the squad mate who did this. Next one is on me Merlin). There are times when major PF in a rifle does pay dividends.... The look on your face was priceless when you prepped for a second shot and couldn't find a plate to shoot at. I'll have to see if I got that on video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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