rtr Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) My classification shows the following: 6/20/07 07USON USPSA PRESIDENT Y 61.7980 6/28/07 6/20/07 03-08 USPSA PRESIDENT B 54.7551 6/26/07 I only recall one classifier at the Open/L10 Nationals this year being 03-08, it was stage 18. So what is the 61.7980 percent and what stage did it come from? My overall finish shows as 61.80 for the match, does that have something to do with it? Going into the match I was a B class shooter at 72.something percent. In looking at some other people's classifier scores looks like your overall match percentage gets entered as a classifier. Can someone elaborate on why this is done? Edited August 31, 2007 by rtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 The 61% is your overall score from Nationals, the whole match is treated like a classifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scirocco38s Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Shooting the nationals also counts as a classifier. The second percentage you are talking about is the percentage you shot at the match. Any major match that has 2 or more GM's in the division can also be counted as a classifier depending on the number of competitors. So any area match or nationals or certain state matches will count toward your clasification. Hope that help explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 I understand now that the whole match is a classifier. I certainly see how my performance at Nationals is an assesment of my overall classification, makes some sense. Just didn't know this was done. Is there any history of why this is done or reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Nationals is probably the best way to gauge performance at a national level. A wide variety of stages and all the top shooters are always there. That's probably why they use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scirocco38s Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 The current rule book states that on page 21, paragraph 3 all the info concerning this. It is available on line and is in pdf format. ( I just took my RO recert test and have again become familiar with this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4406pak Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) The 61% is your overall score from Nationals, the whole match is treated like a classifier. Do they treat Area championship matches as classifiers like this as well or just the Nationals? Edited March 27, 2009 by rr4406pak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) The 61% is your overall score from Nationals, the whole match is treated like a classifier. Do they treat Area championship matches as classifiers like this as well or just the Nationals? yes. Should have said, "Yes,but Area Matches are not always counted as classifiers in each Division" Edited March 28, 2009 by FullRace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbs007 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I believe Level III matches with more than 2 GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Yeppers! (ETA: And it might be 3 GM's) Rich Edited March 27, 2009 by uscbigdawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yeppers! (ETA: And it might be 3 GM's)Rich I thought it had to be 3 GMs for it to count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 And that is 3 GM's in a division to count as a classifier. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 At the Area Match level the rule is not enforced to the "letter of the law". It's really hit or miss whether the match will count or not. IF there's a "name" GM there your luck will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The Match Director needs to ask for the match to be counted as a classifier...usually...at the big matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 It depends on the match or match level, I guess. The last few Area 6's have been treated as classifiers and we didn't have to ask for that to be done, they just did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 It depends on the match or match level, I guess. The last few Area 6's have been treated as classifiers and we didn't have to ask for that to be done, they just did it. Not exactly. The office does a good job of looking at the area matches closely. Just to make sure at least this area director makes the office aware of which diviisions had 3 GMs shooting the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I was looking through the list of shooters at the Single Stack Nats and noticed that some of them have two classifiers (match plus stage) from previous SSNs, and some of them just have the overall match classifier. Since the shooter with just the overall match classifier was shooting at the M/A level, I doubt she tanked the classifier stage. Was this just an oops at Sedro Wooley, or is there some other explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Everybody at the match should have been the same. I don't think there is any way to include/exclude an individual. Did you check other shooters at this particular match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I was looking through the list of shooters at the Single Stack Nats and noticed that some of them have two classifiers (match plus stage) from previous SSNs, and some of them just have the overall match classifier. Since the shooter with just the overall match classifier was shooting at the M/A level, I doubt she tanked the classifier stage. Was this just an oops at Sedro Wooley, or is there some other explanation? Zeroing the classifier is the only option I can think of...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Everybody at the match should have been the same. I don't think there is any way to include/exclude an individual.Did you check other shooters at this particular match? I think I found the issue. I looked at a few more competitors, and it looks like in 06 and 07 they shot a classifier stage and recorded overal finish. In 08, I just see the overall finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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