Dusty Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I am not that familiar with Glocks so I figured I'd ask you guys. I have always heard that Glocks ruin brass so it isn't any good for reloading. Is this True? What is the deal? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dusty, The Glock will make your brass a little funny. You will need to roll-size it if you want to reload it. Once you shoot it in a different gun, you can process normally, without necessarily roll-sizing. The brass is definitely not ruined. Wakal and I have a bunch of .40 reloads with previously Glocked brass. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 No ruined, just a pain in the A$$ to get ready to use again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 You can roll size it or use a EGW "U" sizing die. Half the brass I use has been "glocked", and once I use the "U" die, it's all good to go. I wouldn't expecially want to keep using that brass in a stock glock since I'd think you'd be working the hell out of the brass, but in my Para and Glock with KKM barrel I don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Just buy a new Glock and it will be fine. The new guns seem to have tighter chambers. I can detect no guppy bellying from any of the Glocks I've purchased recently. Read the reloading FAQ's and you'll find a wealth of info about resizing Glock brass. Personally, I regard it as a non-problem anymore. The only time I think about it is when I read about it on the internet. You'll like the new Glocks too. Glock keeps making subtle changes and the new ones are really refined guns compared to what first hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Refined in what ways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) It will ruin your brass.. but since I'm a helpful recycling Oregonion, just send it to me. I'll make sure it's recycled and not impact the environment After many, many k's of reloading for 9 and 40 glock, I use the "u" die and one shot lube and it's all good. Edited March 18, 2006 by Trey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 My 1 month old G35 definitely "glocks" the brass. Maybe not as much as earlier Glocks, but this is my first and I have nothing to compare it to. The KKM barrel solved that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Refined in what ways.... Just about everything. The triggers are better, mag releases have been redesigned for more clearance with the frame (diff part #), no more peeling plating, better chambers, *noticably* improved injection molding. I'm sure there's more that I'm missing. Best of all the mags got cheaper. What's not to like about a gun that uses reliable $16 (or less) mags. Bugger up a mag? Chuck it. Who cares at that price? If anyone is going to challenge King Glock for market dominance, they'd better clue in and make sure that the market is filled with TONS of reliable $15 magazines. The only thing left to fix is those goofy spring cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) I use Glock brass regularly in an STI. The key is a full length sizing die in your press, no bid deal, lots of people reload it. I have never had one fail the case guage forward or backward in the last 50K rounds. Edited March 18, 2006 by fomeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Pretty much the same comments as JFD, I have seen worse stuff in bulk once fired brass ( Glock ) than what came out of my G35. But, the KKM barrel went in just to be sure. IMHO this problem with huge chambers and buldged brass has been limited to 40 S&W only. The 45ACP and 9MM seem to come out of Glocks looking pretty much the same as any other gun except for the primers ( Glock strikers leave a distinctive mark ). The EGW U die fixes the problem nicely. IMHO Glock 40 brass is not completely ruined, just a little stressed. Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I purchased one of the EGW dies a few weeks ago. I would have 4-6 rounds per hundred that would not pass a case gauge. Running them through a Lee FCD did not help. The EGW die cured the problem, but left the loaded round with an hour glass shape. I bought a regular Lee .40 die. The hour glass shape went away. I have loaded about 1,000 rounds with the standard Lee die. None have failed the case gauge. I am not sure the undersized die is really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Gaines Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I purchased one of the EGW dies a few weeks ago. I would have 4-6 rounds per hundred that would not pass a case gauge. Running them through a Lee FCD did not help. The EGW die cured the problem, but left the loaded round with an hour glass shape. I bought a regular Lee .40 die. The hour glass shape went away. I have loaded about 1,000 rounds with the standard Lee die. None have failed the case gauge.I am not sure the undersized die is really needed. If you have a factory glock barrel I would agree, but with an aftermarket barrel like kkm, you definately want a U die or Factory crimp. KKm barrels have a tighter chamber. I barrel check my ammo and sometimes I will get rounds that will not barrel check even using the U die, those rounds get shot through my para which will shoot anything. As far as the brass, alot of times we are reloading and have no clue what gun or how many guns the brass has been fired through. Just inspect the brass carefully, and play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm951 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I'm shooting a 3rd gen G21 and I haven't seen the infamous Glock bulge. Maybe it's on higher pressure rounds than 45acp. The stuff I'm currently loading is 230gr lrn Precision Moly over 4.4gr Clays with Rem primers. No issues of any type noted. I'm using a 550B and full length size my brass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 What is the Differents between the LEE dies and the EGW dies? I have a set of 40 S&W Lee dies that I plan on taking out of my Lee Load Master and transfer to my New Dillon 550 and buy the special hardware that is need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 the 9mm barrels are fine, tight chambers and adequate support. I have read that the 357 Sig is OK. My G23 barrel was shot 2 times and changed out to a KKM. The 40 Glock barrels are scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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