First major match..

[ComputersAre8ad]

I decided to shoot LO for Texas Open this last weekend and made a big mistake. When going to Chrono I was unaware of the fact it isn't JUST chrono. It is a gear check in general.

 

I didn't want to unload my mags for them to use so instead of using what was on my belt I asked my cousin to grab an empty from my bag. He pulled a training 170 and I handed it over. Straight to Open, do not pass go, you are shooting the wrong caliber.

 

Funny enough I ended up placing higher in Open minor than I would've in Limited Optics.

 

Lesson learned but I was real mad for most of the day after that and it effected my shooting.

[Robertwil18]

Good rule of thumb is dont have anything in your range bag that you cant have or use during the match given the division you're shooting.  

 

[robchavous]

That's actually an interesting scenario.  I probably would have asked to speak to the MD about that one.  I feel like that would have been an easily explainable mistake.

[Joe4d]

51 minutes ago, Robertwil18 said:

Good rule of thumb is dont have anything in your range bag that you cant have or use during the match given the division you're shooting.  

 

goes for ammo as well,  IE if you are shooting major dont have a box of minor ammo setting in your range bag.  Some matches actually make an effort to get random samples.  

[RJH]

you got hosed

[rpm8300]

Yes, in situations like this where the spirit of the rule was not broken, talk to the match director.

[shred]

We had a long discussion with Troy years ago about going into shooter bags for ammo.  TLDR: they can't grab any old round rattling around your bag.  After all it could be a major load that'll blow up your Minor pistol.

 

That said, if you handed the mag to the chrono guy, that's on you.

 

[RJH]

6 minutes ago, shred said:

We had a long discussion with Troy years ago about going into shooter bags for ammo.  TLDR: they can't grab any old round rattling around your bag.  After all it could be a major load that'll blow up your Minor pistol.

 

That said, if you handed the mag to the chrono guy, that's on you.

 

 

I change my vote. I thought the cousin handed the mag to the chrono guy. If the op handed it to them, definitely on him

[ComputersAre8ad]

Yep. It was on me. I did speak with the MD. It was my ignorance thus my fault. Was just sharing my first major blunder & match.

[RJH]

35 minutes ago, ComputersAre8ad said:

Yep. It was on me. I did speak with the MD. It was my ignorance thus my fault. Was just sharing my first major blunder & match.

 

 

Don't sweat it too much, crap happens. You finished the match and learned a lesson that wasn't too costly, sounds like an overall win to me

[davsco]

eh that's a crap call to move you to open for a simple mistake.

 

hopefully you used the 170 to save a reload or two the rest of the match.

[ComputersAre8ad]

I didn't use the 170. Just because they made that call doesn't mean I have to accept it. I kept shooting my division LO. 

[Sarge]

Brings up Another interesting point, I shoot Open exclusively so I have 170’s in my bag as well as 140’s. I have shot a few Majors where I only used the 140’s the entire match. What I hear chrono guys say typically is, “hand me the longest mag you use in the match”. Once I handed him a 140 and was told to grab a 170 instead. I get that people cheat with mags that are too long but it seems the wording should probably be, “hand me the longest mag legal for your division”?

[shred]

At the World Shoot gear check you had to bring all your mags and they'd check them and put a little sticker on them if they passed.  Don't be caught using a mag with no sticker...  Doubt USPSA chrono people want to mess with that, so they just ask for the longest.

 

Every now an then I've seen matches spot-check mags on the stages.   Not all of them pass.

 

[HesedTech]

On 5/19/2024 at 8:30 PM, Sarge said:

What I hear chrono guys say typically is, “hand me the longest mag you use in the match”. Once

For some reason this kind of bugs me. The Chrono stage is both, HF and equipment check, but this seems to be a bit over the top on the RO’s part. Why not have an equipment check at match check in and require all that is to be used be marked some how? Which is what I saw happen at an IDPA match.
 

The best Chrono stage I saw was were an RO escorted us from a stage with the mags and ammo used right to the Chrono. No stopping to check mags, or anything else.

 

As always, if someone wants to cheat it’s not hard to do so. Chrono just forces people to work harder at being a cheater. Some people just take the fun out of everything. 
 

PS, as an RO I actually pay attention to round count on stages expecting reloads that match the division. The weekend they raised Production to 15 caught me by surprise when I was ROing a Prod. shooter who didn’t reloaded after 10 rounds. 

Edited June 1 by HesedTech

[shred]

IPSC does gear checks at registration.  It's usually the day before the match because it takes a while to get everyone through it.  USPSA for whatever reason (time, people, philosophy, ... ) decided to just do spot-checks on the range and at chrono.