Nightforce Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Is anyone using the Ace XR virtual reality to dry fire train? For those using the system what are your thoughts regarding it being a legit training tool or just a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telligentgunner Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Picked up one last week for vision training. Still evaluating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I’ve been using it since launch. My performance has improved a good deal. I’ll know more Sunday how it transfers over as I’m shooting my first live match in months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I geeked out pretty hard on the thing when I got it after Nathanb recommended it. It's a lot of fun but I am having an issue with the 320-style grip module screwing up my actual live-fire index a bit. It's a subtle but very real difference. I'm on the fence whether or not I'm going to stick with it until they either add a way to change point of impact or add a 2011 or CZ grip module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightforce Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 I received the gun controller at the end of last week and have been trying the thing out. So far it appears to be very realistic. The environment is very good, the physics appear to be correct and I love the fact that it has been designed around USPSA and steel challenge. I can see that if the plan is to use it as a training tool the user will need to be disciplined in using it as a training tool and not get sucked into playing it as a game chasing high scores. I will need more time with the 320 as the controller to see if it will affect my index in real life or not. I see this as very good to bridge the gap between dry fire and live fire. You get scoring feedback and the system is very sensitive to using a poor grip. A poor grip will result in poor hits at speed. It is amazing to train on movement stages. You can very easily experiment with different approaches to run the stage and evaluate the results using time and hit factor to show what way might be best. It also has most of the USPSA moving targets that makes it easy to get lots of practice on swingers and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I tried it for a few weeks. The zero recoil, wrong grip and non adjustable dot brightness quickly turned it into a game for me. I'm not saying there isn't some value to it, but I think it's more productive to use your real gun/gear and dry fire. It motivated me to get the dryfire King ap on youtube which I think it pretty awesome. On the bright side, my 10 year old loves the goggles, so it wasn't a total waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I got one of these about a month ago now and so far I'm pretty happy with it. I've 3D printed a 2011 grip, added lead to it to get it up to about 43 oz, which is about the same as my unloaded gun weight. Added the same grip tape I'm using on my real gun, and printed a new trigger and sear. It's still not a perfect representation of my 2011 but it's getting the job done I think. It also fits my holster so I can work on draws too. I believe it is helping and will continue to train with it pretty heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastmode_05 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 jury seems pretty split. In the nay sayers opinions is it something that just is a few modifications short of good or is the system not good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesquared Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Anyone here using this and need glasses? Curious how that works out with the headset. Never had VR so not sure how real it feels visually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Eyesquared said: Anyone here using this and need glasses? Curious how that works out with the headset. Never had VR so not sure how real it feels visually. It comes with a spacer if you need to wear glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesquared Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, RangerTrace said: It comes with a spacer if you need to wear glasses. Got it - does it feel different turning your head with the weight of the headset or is it pretty light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Eyesquared said: Got it - does it feel different turning your head with the weight of the headset or is it pretty light? It's pretty light, but you certainly know you have something on your face. I don't get a crisp view, probably because of my eyesight. I've not messed with mine in many weeks. It's the kid's game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingmanjeff Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 4/16/2024 at 8:28 PM, Eyesquared said: Anyone here using this and need glasses? Curious how that works out with the headset. Never had VR so not sure how real it feels visually. My kid was able to get inserts for the headset that match his prescription - they were maybe $150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 4/16/2024 at 9:31 PM, RangerTrace said: It's pretty light, but you certainly know you have something on your face. I don't get a crisp view, probably because of my eyesight. I've not messed with mine in many weeks. It's the kid's game now. I wear glasses and don't need the insert, actually made it worse than without. I'm still waiting to figure out how to get the handset (3D printed Shadow 2) to index the same as my "real" gun. If I test back to back, the dot rides about 1/4" as I perceive it out of the bottom of the window in the simulator. I end up slightly cocking my wrist to play the game and if I overdo it that totally screws my "real" draw. I went a little nuts with the thing when I first purchased it and had a big surprise at my first match after a month or so of fairly heavy use. I haven't messed with it in a couple of weeks now, but I do have an idea how to mod the grip to allow me to fine tune the dot. I'll see how it goes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp77 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Ace VR is a tool, and a very good one. It should be one of many training tools used. Just like a boxer does not learn all of his boxing craft using just a heavy bag. It is one of many tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/5/2024 at 8:56 PM, RobW said: I wear glasses and don't need the insert, actually made it worse than without. I'm still waiting to figure out how to get the handset (3D printed Shadow 2) to index the same as my "real" gun. If I test back to back, the dot rides about 1/4" as I perceive it out of the bottom of the window in the simulator. I end up slightly cocking my wrist to play the game and if I overdo it that totally screws my "real" draw. I went a little nuts with the thing when I first purchased it and had a big surprise at my first match after a month or so of fairly heavy use. I haven't messed with it in a couple of weeks now, but I do have an idea how to mod the grip to allow me to fine tune the dot. I'll see how it goes ... I have a 3D printed Shadow 2 I'm not using. I'm running a 2011 handset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 4/16/2024 at 9:31 PM, RangerTrace said: It's pretty light, but you certainly know you have something on your face. I don't get a crisp view, probably because of my eyesight. I've not messed with mine in many weeks. It's the kid's game now. Did you try adjusting the lens for your pupil distance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 4/16/2024 at 9:29 PM, Eyesquared said: Got it - does it feel different turning your head with the weight of the headset or is it pretty light? I'm running it with a extended battery, this adds more weight but it adds it to the back and seems more balanced. I don't notice the headset much at all like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/14/2024 at 7:11 AM, Racinready300ex said: I have a 3D printed Shadow 2 I'm not using. I'm running a 2011 handset. I'll take that shadow 2 setup off your hands if you aren't using it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunN00b Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 i have 1 and havent been able to get much time with. I ordered a 2011 model and need to swap the controller and trigger guts over to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 They came out with a 2011 handset that works with race holsters. Now I'm getting some use out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 I think some of the 3D printable options are better then the one they just released. A buddy of mine scanned his LO gun then drew it all up in cad and redesigned the trigger parts and put all the files up for free for anyone to download and print. You'll still need the "FCU" to go into the gun and make it complete. But, you need a printer or you'll have to find someone you can pay to print it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb06 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Are the files on Thingiverse and if so how are they listed to do a search? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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