Kettlebell Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 What kind of mechanical accuracy can be expected from the MKIV Lite vs the Volquartsen LLV-4 4.5" upper / Mamba / Scorpion? From those that have had both the MKIV and VQ does one seem to be more reliable, robust, less fragile, or less finicky with ammo selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 So I’ve owned 2 Scorpions and a Ruger Mark IV 22/45 Lite. Both Scorpions ran 100% with any ammo. The Ruger went to 2 local gunsmiths and then to Volquartsen. The trigger was never as good as either of my Volquartsens and the gun was incredibly fussy about mags and would only shoot Minimags and not very reliably. I don’t know if only a Volquartsen upper would make a big difference, but the complete pistols are works of art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 My current Scorpion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I really like my Black Mamba with a C-More and 12 MOA dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettlebell Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 It sounds like the Volquartsen options are the "easy button." Do you both prefer the Tandemkross flat trigger over the curved wide VQ? Do the magazines directly from VQ tend to run better in their pistols than stock Ruger magazines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I prefer the flat trigger and regular Ruger mags work great in my Volquartsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone45 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Kettlebell said: It sounds like the Volquartsen options are the "easy button." Do you both prefer the Tandemkross flat trigger over the curved wide VQ? Do the magazines directly from VQ tend to run better in their pistols than stock Ruger magazines? I think the VQ mags are just stock Ruger mags but with the VQ spring and follower button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I use standard Ruger mags. Picture shows the flat trigger but I now shoot the Volquartsen one. I didn't like the feel of the flat trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old558 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I have both and both have run reliably with no issues. After tricking out the Ruger the cost is pretty close to the Volquartsen Black Mamba. I was able to find mine used like new for a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Here's my steel shooter, I want to try the Scorpion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijinx Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 My MK IV 22/45 lite has been 100% reliable and accurate. It has eaten everything I’ve put into it from Thunderbolt to Mini-Mags. It shot some Winchester that wouldn’t feed in my Victory. I did install the TandemKross trigger kit to lighten the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costeel Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, hijinx said: My MK IV 22/45 lite has been 100% reliable and accurate. It has eaten everything I’ve put into it from Thunderbolt to Mini-Mags. It shot some Winchester that wouldn’t feed in my Victory. I did install the TandemKross trigger kit to lighten the trigger. Same experience. The only mandatory upgrade, IMO, is a lighter trigger. Otherwise mine eats anything. The only caveat is lead bullets heavily lead the barrel after a few hundred rounds. No issues with copper. My mkII never had a problem with leading, not sure of the difference Edited July 27, 2022 by costeel More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 shooter Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) I have a MK IV 22/45 Lite with a VQ trigger and a VQ Black Mamba. The accuracy edge goes to the VQ but not by a lot. Both will feed anything, but the smoothness of operation definitely goes to the VQ. The factory Ruger trigger was just simply awful and had to be replaced. I really like the VQ mags with the aluminum base and have a couple but the standard Ruger mags work just fine. Edited July 28, 2022 by 21 shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettlebell Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Thank you all for the replies and input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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