AH6IP Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 (edited) Is there a good market for just a lightened bolt/carrier for the M1/M2? Edited October 12, 2005 by AH6IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeinvader Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I think a lightened bolt would transcend 3-gun or even shotgun competition in general if you could describe the benefits to all Benelli owners, not just 3-gun guys. Less felt recoil, better reliablity with lighter loads, etc. These are things that all Benelli owners would want if they only knew about it. I would buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Is there a good market for just a lightened bolt/carrier for the M1/M2? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, I would try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Is there a good market for just a lightened bolt/carrier for the M1/M2? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, I would try one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Why doesn't someone clue in Benelli to this. They must took a beautiful gun (M1) and made it ugly in the name of reduced recoil. That trigger guard, funny rubber stuff in butt stock. Funky looking recoil pad. If a lightened bolt would do all what all that did without changing cosmetics, I am all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH6IP Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 For those interested, please PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racegun Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Benny Hill at Triangle Shooting Sports lightens bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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benny hill Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I will lighten your bolt & return to you in about 4 days for $80.00 includeing shipping. I have done most of the top shooters guns & know how much is enough & not to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH6IP Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) So do I. Same price. Edited October 19, 2005 by AH6IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Benny, what about shooting 3" duck loads in a lightened-bolt M1? Good or bad idea? I use mine for both and don't want to tear anything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Smith Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Along these same lines, what recoil/op spring is the "right" one, to replace the one that comes in the M1S90 "Tactical"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 the " standard" recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01 Z06 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Do you have one of those M1 lightened bolt carriers for sale? I don't want to cut mine up but I would like to buy one new or used to try. If you have one that you would like to sell let me know. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Forgive the ignorant and tell me what the point is of lightening the bolt on a Benelli? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerjg Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Forgive the ignorant and tell me what the point is of lightening the bolt on a Benelli? Thanks. As in post #2: I think a lightened bolt would transcend 3-gun or even shotgun competition in general if you could describe the benefits to all Benelli owners, not just 3-gun guys. Less felt recoil, better reliablity with lighter loads, etc. These are things that all Benelli owners would want if they only knew about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hmmm. I don't know if I buy into lower recoil, it fires essentially like a fixed breech gun and doesn't open until after the brunt of the thump hits you. I can see the light load improvement and a gain in cycle speed. I dumped the Benelli's I had a couple years ago, and went to a SuperX2 for lighter recoil, improved reliability, faster cycling and so on. I would like to shoot a 'full race' Benelli to better understand the benefits of the work...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckbradley Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Benny lightned my bolt and did some work for reliabiltiy even though I never had a problem before. It really made a difference. I love benelli's. Just about everybody at our club has sold their remingtonjamamatics and went to Benelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Thanks Chuck. I have a Benny built gun and he does know how to make one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH6IP Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 (edited) Just FYI- What I have found is the hunters really like the Benelli, and they like the lightened bolt system, especially those that shoot many rounds. Recently I did 10 Benellis, both 12 and 20 gauge, for the same owner. He hunts dove twice a year in Argentina. Oh, and just to pat myself on the back, he also bought my Benelli that I set up for 3 gun. His son took it to Argentina and shot 8500 rounds in 3 days---and never had a malfunction, and that is shooting their preferred light loads. A lightened bolt carrier and a SVL recoil pad works wonders. Edited February 26, 2006 by AH6IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Jerry, Judging by your Tombstone location and really really cool avtar ( Arizona is now home - I hope to see you at Mesa in a few weeks. Be well amigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBoyElroy Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 So just how does a lightened bolt carrier enhance the function and reliability of a Benelli M1? Benelli's bolt carrier doesn't function the same as a bolt carrier in a M16/AR15. A certain reciprocating mass is necessary for a Benelli to function reliably. Seems to me a lighter Benelli bolt carrier would require a heavier load to adequately compress the spring inside the bolt carrier and that spring has to be compressed first before the rest of the action will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH6IP Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) Mr. Jetson's son- The bolt itself on the Benelli keeps the system locked up because of the inertia spring inside the carrier. At a given moment, the bolt unlocks, there by letting the carrier and parts recoil, ejecting the spent round. Now-that's where the lightened carrier comes into play. Less mass moving rearward means a Lghter Load can move this mass, (read-less felt recoil). That's where you get the less felt recoil, along with a good recoil pad(SVL-Limbsaver). The stock action spring works just fine, it just makes for a more positive loading sequence, ie, shell off the lifter to the chamber. Edited February 27, 2006 by AH6IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBoyElroy Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Mr. Jetson's son-The bolt itself on the Benelli keeps the system locked up because of the inertia spring inside the carrier. At a given moment, the bolt unlocks, there by letting the carrier and parts recoil, ejecting the spent round. Now-that's where the lightened carrier comes into play. Less mass moving rearward means a Lghter Load can move this mass, (read-less felt recoil). That's where you get the less felt recoil, along with a good recoil pad(SVL-Limbsaver). The stock action spring works just fine, it just makes for a more positive loading sequence, ie, shell off the lifter to the chamber. I've got to think about what you say. The action of the "inertia spring" as it relates to unlocking the bolt is the point of my question. As I understand it there is a forward motion of the carrier as the inertia spring compresses before the bolt unlocks and the carrier moves to the rear. Everything else you say I understand and agree. It's the effect a carrier with less mass has on the forward movement I've got to ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBoyElroy Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I would like to try a lightened Benelli bolt carrier. Don't quite understand the finer points but am willing to give one a try In my head I'm still attempting to reconcile the fact a heavier charging handle seems to make a Benelli cycle more reliably with the benefits to be gained by a lightened carrier. Sometimes 'ya just gotta cut-and-try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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