Chillywig Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 147 RN blues and universal clays - I am wanting to load up some of these for USPSA minor. Specifically a XDM 5.25. Wondering if anyone has a recipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Say start 3.5 an Work up. In 40 major I was at 5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Scott this is what the book says Manufacturer Hodgdon Universal BULLET WEIGHT 147 GR. HDY XTP C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure 1.100" 3.0 803 24,100 CUP 3.3 869 31,000 CUP http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol Edited October 3, 2018 by Chillywig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ya u but u not loading that short. 3.0 of universal Seems light. I’ve never loaded mine with it. Text gene he loaded bunch over the summer with it. But I think he was using 125 grain bbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfoto Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Figuring out load data on Blues seems to be detective work. The response I got when I inquired directly, "use cast bullet data." I think the Hornady bullets on the Hodgeden site are FMJ. I found this on the Eggleston site: Edited October 3, 2018 by Mcfoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Looks like the Polycoat and Honrady XTP 147 data is exactly the same. LOL - and a bit hard to believe I have loaded some coated Bayuo Bullets and Zero HP both 147gr with Hodgdon Universal. The Zero 147 was for suppressed pistols and loaded within the guidelines "in the book" The Bayou Bullets I had to exceed recommend charge weight to get to work reliably in a MPX but worked well and without any pressure indications I have a good idea as to what I should do with the Blue 147s for USPSA minor but thought I would ask if anyone had first hand experience with this bullet and powder and could share their experiences. Thanks Edited October 3, 2018 by Chillywig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Chillywig said: Looks like the Polycoat and Honrady XTP 147 data is exactly the same. LOL - and a bit hard to believe That seems very strange. I wonder where Eggleston got their data from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 Well I did some experimentation and decided to go with 147 RN blues WIN sp primer 3.28gr Universal 1.14OAL gave me an average velocity of 873fps from a 5" M&P = 128 PF I was loading for a friend and he will shoot these in a XDM 5.25. I am hoping he will have a 129-130PF with the tad longer barrel Shot a few of these threw my sig 365 for fun - 113 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) *EDIT* posted in the wrong thread... Edited May 16, 2021 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm8300 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 147 Blues are always a little heavy, and they are generally a little faster. 3.0 of Titegroup or 3.2 of N320 worked for me - great combo as long as it is accurate for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Real world data from my revo Name: 9mm: 148gr Blue RN: Clays 3.05gr: Win Case: OAL 1.20: S&W 929 Notes: S&W 929 Shots: 4 Average: 882 ft/s SD: 10 ft/s Min: 871 ft/s Max: 897 ft/s Spread: 26 ft/s Power Factor Average: 130 Power Factor Low: 128 Power Factor High: 132 Barometric Pressure: 29 in Hg Temperature: 67 F Weight: 148.0 gr. Powder/Wt: Clays/3.05gr Bullet/Wt: Blue 148gr RN Primer: Fed SPP Case: Win OAL: 1.20 Gun: S&W 929 / 5" barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePivot Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Is that really 1.200?? I'm impressed anything plunks that long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, OnePivot said: Is that really 1.200?? I'm impressed anything plunks that long! That's in my SW 929 revolver. Sorry And I'm using Clays, not Universal Clays. Sorry again. Whoever thought naming three different powders Clays, Universal Clays and International Clays was s good idea, should be killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, ysrracer said: Whoever thought naming three different powders Clays, Universal Clays and International Clays was s good idea, should be killed Yes. And I certainly hope that after 2 years Chillywig has his load figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Farmer said: Yes. And I certainly hope that after 2 years Chillywig has his load figured out. Oh man, damn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, ysrracer said: Oh man, damn it Yeh happens to all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 10:30 AM, Farmer said: Yes. And I certainly hope that after 2 years Chillywig has his load figured out. Hey, I was busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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