Kiwishoot Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Running a DarkForce pistol carbine kit with a CZ Shadow pistol, just wondering if this would qualify in PCC Division in USPSA Shooting ? More of a rules question rather than checking for equipment suitabilility. Similar to this : Link to comment
Garmil Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Does it have a 16" barrel or is an sbr with stamp? Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) It has to be defined by the ATF as a rifle. For example, pay the tax stamp and build an SBR such as an AR-15 with a 7” barrel and an honest-to-god stock? Legal in USPSA. An AR-15 pistol with a 7” barrel an an adjustable, shoulder-able pistol brace is not a rifle. Not legal in USPSA. Edited August 21, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment
chevrofreak Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2) Handgun to carbine conversions are allowed as long as the convers ion is shot in PCC division, and meets the criteria in #6. 6 Must have stock attached and be capable of being fired from shoulder position . **Note: Sig Brace and any variant thereof is not allowed* * Handgun to carbine conversions are allowed, provided they meet the criteria above. Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Is it available for purchase in the United States? Looks like the DarkForce pistol carbine kit has a buttstock that can be shot from the shoulder but uses the pistol's barrel. As such, they would not be legal in the U.S. without a tax stamp. I'm not even sure you can get the stamp since it can easily go from a pistol to a carbine. If you could put a 16" barrel in the pistol and get it to fit, you might be able to pass muster. If you are not in the states (NZ possibly?) you could be OK. Edit: Found their website in NZ. Price in US$ is about $865. What's interesting is their suppressors start at under 60 US$ (22 LR). Edited August 21, 2018 by Flatland Shooter Link to comment
Darqusoull13 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Yeah, NZ is a beautiful place. Suppressors are encouraged and considered polite. When I was there a few years ago I could have bought one...no stamp, no wait. Link to comment
Sarge Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 57 minutes ago, Darqusoull13 said: Yeah, NZ is a beautiful place. Suppressors are encouraged and considered polite. When I was there a few years ago I could have bought one...no stamp, no wait. Sorta shows they are way overpriced here. Link to comment
BartCarter Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Easy to get a barrel extension pinned and welded and make 16 inches. Then put on a stock. Good to go. I make my own barrel extensions from aluminum. Link to comment
Kiwishoot Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 23 hours ago, chevrofreak said: 2) Handgun to carbine conversions are allowed as long as the conversion is shot in PCC division, and meets the criteria in #6. 6 Must have stock attached and be capable of being fired from shoulder position. Excellent, thanks for this. Link to comment
Kiwishoot Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Darqusoull13 said: Yeah, NZ is a beautiful place. Suppressors are encouraged and considered polite. When I was there a few years ago I could have bought one...no stamp, no wait. Yup, got suppressors on all my rifles. It's a nice slice of paradise but the down side is things can get pretty pricey. You'd cry at the price of a PMag. Link to comment
Darqusoull13 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Yeah, there's also a fantastic shop in Rotarua and I hear one of the best ranges in the country just outside of town. Maybe I can plan a combined hunt / IPSC vacation out there soon I have plenty of PMAGS Link to comment
nate89 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I was thinking of something similar, except the glock conversion piece that allows you to install an AR receiver extension and stock. Sure you pay the $200, but then you have something that might be pretty useful on tighter stages. Especially when taking shots with aggressive leans it might actually be an advantage over the AR style PCC guns. Add a frame mounted dot and a comp and see what happens. Link to comment
Kiwishoot Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Darqusoull13 said: Yeah, there's also a fantastic shop in Rotarua and I hear one of the best ranges in the country just outside of town. Maybe I can plan a combined hunt / IPSC vacation out there soon I have plenty of PMAGS Yup that's the Gunsupplies shop and the Rotorua Pistol Club, quite a few ranges with dedicated speed steel range in the middle, they run National competitions including IPSC, MultiGun, etc. Prices for new gear are a bit eye watering, biggest challenge for some gear is getting US Export permits. But travelling with gear in/out USA quite easy, we recently spent more talking to US Customs about shooting than it took for them to process the Form6 into the computer. You'd have the same if you bring your gear down to NZ, and you basically get a free suppressor when you arrive, handed out like lollies Link to comment
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