Gameplayer Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm retiring my beloved P7's for steel challenge matches. I am on the search for a new gat for the same purpose. Interested in what centerfire gat you prefer to shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickT Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 What Division do you want to shoot? If you're a 1911 SS Elitist Club honorary member you should shoot SS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 whatever i'm currently shooting in uspsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 hours ago, RickT said: What Division do you want to shoot? If you're a 1911 SS Elitist Club honorary member you should shoot SS! 14 minutes ago, rowdyb said: whatever i'm currently shooting in uspsa. YES and YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo2011 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 What Rowdy said. I use steel challenge as transition practice for whatever division I'm shooting in uspsa currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 yeah, i don't think "ohhhh, this will be a good centerfire gun for steel challenge" when i'm deciding what to buy or shoot at the steel challenge match. instead i just grab the gun and gear for whatever uspsa division i'm currently shooting and that''s that. if a gun is good enough for me to shoot in uspsa then it's probably good enough for me to shoot in steel challenge. though i'm sure there are people out there who feel a certain gun or gun features might be intrinsically better for steel challenge alone, but i am not one of them and don't know those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I used to shoot my USPSA Open gun until I converted my CZ TS to a dedicated Steel gun. I'm in the process of building a dedicated 1911 9mm for Steel. Then I will also put either my Marvel Unit 1 or my custom race conversion on it for RFPO. I will say it is better to shoot the same gun, or guns that are set up so similarly you don't play find the dot. I'm in the process of converting all the frame mounted dots to slide mounted (I have way more slide mounted) to eliminate that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, zzt said: I used to shoot my USPSA Open gun until I converted my CZ TS to a dedicated Steel gun. I'm in the process of building a dedicated 1911 9mm for Steel. Then I will also put either my Marvel Unit 1 or my custom race conversion on it for RFPO. I will say it is better to shoot the same gun, or guns that are set up so similarly you don't play find the dot. I'm in the process of converting all the frame mounted dots to slide mounted (I have way more slide mounted) to eliminate that problem. Funny that you wrote this as I'm nearly identical. I'm in the process of building a 9mm Single Stack for both steel and USPSA but I've already started shooting RFPO on the frame with a Marvel Unit 1 and will also have a Marvel Unit 1 for RFRI with the same frame. This way it's basically 3 guns in one for consistency of grip, trigger, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameplayer Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 My lack of mobility has prevented me from shooting USPSA for years. I am now fighting arthritis and neuropathy in my hands. I no longer shoot 1911's and the squeeze cocking mechanism of the P7 irritates my hands. I went to the shooting range and tested a few guns (9mm). Polymer framed guns are a no go. Fired a few steel guns (CZ, SIG, Tanfo). And while I could shoot those with no pain the triggers leave something to be desired. I don't much about these brands so that is why I asked the question. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo2011 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 For ease of operation and user comfort I'd choose a steel grip 2011 in 9mm with a lightened slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gameplayer said: My lack of mobility has prevented me from shooting USPSA for years. I am now fighting arthritis and neuropathy in my hands. I no longer shoot 1911's and the squeeze cocking mechanism of the P7 irritates my hands. I went to the shooting range and tested a few guns (9mm). Polymer framed guns are a no go. Fired a few steel guns (CZ, SIG, Tanfo). And while I could shoot those with no pain the triggers leave something to be desired. I don't much about these brands so that is why I asked the question. Thank you. Is the no go on the 1911 due to the caliber or grip/safeties? If you want a good trigger, the 1911 is your gold standard. Next after that would be a PCC/rimfire rifle. I've had surgeries on both my back and elbow so I've reluctantly stepped away from USPSA and have been shooting steel rimfire rifle and now pistol for the past few years. Waaaaay easier on the body! Combine that with the data tracking inherent to Steel Challenge and it's addictive. I think a lot of guys' egos make them shy away from rimfire because they see it as a "kids gun," but what I've found is that rimfire in the hands of an expert is unbelievably fast. Solid, basic fundamentals are especially pronounced because with the inherent speed of the guns combined with the lack of a draw, a top shooter is given the venue to deliver sub 2 second runs--heck sub 1.75 runs--over and over. Edited June 20, 2017 by jkrispies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameplayer Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, jkrispies said: Is the no go on the 1911 due to the caliber or grip/safeties? If you want a good trigger, the 1911 is your gold standard. Next after that would be a PCC/rimfire rifle. I've had surgeries on both my back and elbow so I've reluctantly stepped away from USPSA and have been shooting steel rimfire rifle and now pistol for the past few years. Waaaaay easier on the body! Combine that with the data tracking inherent to Steel Challenge and it's addictive. I think a lot of guys' egos make them shy away from rimfire because they see it as a "kids gun," but what I've found is that rimfire in the hands of an expert is unbelievably fast. Solid, basic fundamentals are especially pronounced because with the inherent speed of the guns combined with the lack of a draw, a top shooter is given the venue to deliver sub 2 second runs--heck sub 1.75 runs--over and over. I am old school when it comes to the 1911, there is only one caliber. You can count me as one of those that shy away because of what you quoted. Not interested in PCC/rimfire rifle. The eyes don't play well with a longer sight radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameplayer Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Jmo2011 said: For ease of operation and user comfort I'd choose a steel grip 2011 in 9mm with a lightened slide. I have spoken with Adam (Atlas Gunworks) about that very spec'd out gat. I am still on the fence about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 16 hours ago, Gameplayer said: I am old school when it comes to the 1911, there is only one caliber. You can count me as one of those that shy away because of what you quoted. Not interested in PCC/rimfire rifle. The eyes don't play well with a longer sight radius. There's a reason why most people in PCC and Rimfire Rifle use red dot optics. While a few people shoot PCCI and RFRI, it is a tiny percentage compared to PCCO and RFRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911luvr Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 My lack of mobility has prevented me from shooting USPSA for years. I am now fighting arthritis and neuropathy in my hands. I no longer shoot 1911's and the squeeze cocking mechanism of the P7 irritates my hands. I went to the shooting range and tested a few guns (9mm). Polymer framed guns are a no go. Fired a few steel guns (CZ, SIG, Tanfo). And while I could shoot those with no pain the triggers leave something to be desired. I don't much about these brands so that is why I asked the question. Thank you.You didn't leave much on the table considering the standards are polymer or 1911, but if the CZ worked for you I highly recommend it. I love my CZ75, and if you send it to Cajun Gun Works or CZ Custom you will have an amazing competition ready trigger when done- if you can stick to only having the trigger done! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog69 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 for the most part people at our speed steel shoot rim, buck marks, high standards, and alot of converted 45's also shoot ar 15 conversions i shoot a CZ accushadow lite, the trigger is smooth as butter, crisp and light amazing pistol. even in single action its light. its something i think you might like and it might be easy on your hands. if we were close by id let you give her a run.... good luck and stay positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 RFPO: Browning Buckmark Open: STI Steelmaster PCC: Sig MPX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 G, go find a CZ 75 Tactical Sport and wrap your hand around it. It's ready to go right out of the box with an excellent 2 lb. trigger and 3 mags. It has the most comfortable grip of any pistol I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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