AlanHinMN Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Anyone using it yet? Anyone seen it for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 No. No. Like to try it in .45 and .38 Wadcutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMedic376 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I just saw that this is a thing. I'm down to the last little bit of titegroup. Might have to switch. Powder valley has some 1lb and 8lb in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I have been finding out about all kinds of new powders today. IMR has released their new unequal, and target powders as well as IMR blue, red, and green. I also noticed that powder valley is carrying Shooters World powders. Any info on any of them would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMedic376 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just ordered 8 Lbs from powder valley. From what I have been able to gather it should be a very good powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 4:16 PM, FlightMedic376 said: Just ordered 8 Lbs from powder valley. From what I have been able to gather it should be a very good powder. Once you've had a chance to work up and test some loads, it would be appreciated if you'd come back here and provide you thoughts/data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Please do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightMedic376 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Gun is off to Cerakote this week. I'll try and get some numbers up next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I decided to post some Sport Pistol data in this thread instead of starting a new one. I had an opportunity to test some Sport Pistol powder in my custom 40 Limited gun. My "go too" load is 4.6 grains WST over a 180 grain cast HI TEK coated bullet. Felt recoil felt the same between the 2 powders. Accuracy went to Sport Pistol. Although not by much and a different day could have different results. I think WST is a little cleaner, however Sport Pistol isn't that dirty in my opinion. My conclusion, If I wanted 1 powder for both 9mm and 40. Sport Pistol would be my choice. Created: 08/26/17 01:46 PM Description: 40 S&W Limited Notes 1: 4.6 Grains Sport Pistol Notes 2: CCI SPP 1.185 COAL Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.165 Bullet Weight(gr): 180.00 Temp: 87 °F BP: 28.14 inHg Altitude: 800.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 9 928 344.26 167.04 8 932 347.23 167.76 7 950 360.77 171.00 6 938 351.72 168.84 5 929 345.00 167.22 4 957 366.11 172.26 3 951 361.53 171.18 2 943 355.48 169.74 1 949 360.01 170.82 Average: 941.9 FPS SD: 10.6 FPS Min: 928 FPS Max: 957 FPS Spread: 29 FPS Shot/sec: 0.4 True MV: 949 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Here is the data for 4.6 grains Sport Pistol. Created: 08/26/17 01:48 PM Description: 40 S&W Limited Notes 1: 4.7 Grains Sport Pistol Notes 2: CCI SPP 1.185 COAL Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.165 Bullet Weight(gr): 180.00 Temp: 88 °F BP: 28.14 inHg Altitude: 800.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 6 958 366.88 172.44 5 951 361.53 171.18 4 951 361.53 171.18 3 975 380.01 175.50 2 967 373.80 174.06 1 969 375.35 174.42 Average: 961.8 FPS SD: 10.0 FPS Min: 951 FPS Max: 975 FPS Spread: 24 FPS Shot/sec: 0.3 True MV: 969 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Here is my last test batch. I stopped at 4.8 grains. For my 40 I see no reason to test a hotter load. Created: 08/26/17 01:49 PM Description: 40 S&W Limited Notes 1: 4.8 Grains Sport Pistol Notes 2: CCI SPP 1.185 COAL Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.165 Bullet Weight(gr): 180.00 Temp: 86 °F BP: 28.14 inHg Altitude: 800.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 8 985 387.85 177.30 7 989 391.00 178.02 6 991 392.59 178.38 5 974 379.23 175.32 4 973 378.45 175.14 3 965 372.26 173.70 2 973 378.45 175.14 1 969 375.35 174.42 Average: 977.4 FPS SD: 9.7 FPS Min: 965 FPS Max: 991 FPS Spread: 26 FPS Shot/sec: 0.3 True MV: 984 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks RAP! Did you notice any grievances in how clean/dirty the gun was after testing? Results look great. Did you shoot any groups and if so which powder charge was most accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Hi StuckinMS, I thought WST & N320 is cleaner. However, I had no problem with Sport Pistol either. I did notice a light black residue, but not much more than the other 2 powders mentioned. As far as accuracy, I did not perform an accuracy test. All shots were fired off hand at a target at 12 yards firing through the chronograph. I can say I could easily put several shots on a 1" paster with all loads tested at that distance. From my observation I think accuracy will be at least on par and possibly better than WST or N320.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 9 hours ago, RAP said: Hi StuckinMS, I thought WST & N320 is cleaner. However, I had no problem with Sport Pistol either. I did notice a light black residue, but not much more than the other 2 powders mentioned. As far as accuracy, I did not perform an accuracy test. All shots were fired off hand at a target at 12 yards firing through the chronograph. I can say I could easily put several shots on a 1" paster with all loads tested at that distance. From my observation I think accuracy will be at least on par and possibly better than WST or N320. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Excellent information! I will be ordering some. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Thanks! BTW, for what it's worth this is now my go to powder. I have used more of it shooting 9mm in carry optics and it has performed excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Cool! We are thinking about getting into that division also. Finding powders that give good results in multiple applications is key to keeping expenses and space under control. Powder may be a less expensive component, but every dime I save is another bullet bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Thank you for the input. I already have Tightgroup, but went local today looking for Sport Pistol to try it but he didnt have any and hadn't heard of it yet. I gave him the info I've seen here with it doing well with 9mm and 40 and he was cool enough to order 4 bottles of it to put on his shelves to try it out and will call me once it's in. ?? However since he had one bottle of N320 left on the shelf I grabbed it because I wanted to try it compared to TG anyway. So when the Sport Pistol comes in I'll grab one of those too and try all three and see what goes. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, R1_Demon said: However since he had one bottle of N320 left on the shelf I grabbed it because I wanted to try it compared to TG anyway. Trying the Viht powders will lead you to the dark side. The dark side is a very tumultuous road to travel, but we do have cookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, GrumpyOne said: Trying the Viht powders will lead you to the dark side. The dark side is a very tumultuous road to travel, but we do have cookies. Whoooop! Whooop! I like cookies! LOL! Problem is, I'm now trying to search and figure out what load data to use for N320 to make 40 major under a Hornady 180 XTP HP at 1.135 for my XDm 5.25". I haven't had much luck at all because everyone is loading coated bullets and way longer than me. Plus VV only shows info for lead TC 180 on their site for N320. So I have calculated it at 4.1 gr to start and 4.6 gr max going from their lead and HP data with N340. So I was going to try a ladder of 10 rounds each from 4.1 to 4.6 and chrono it to see where I'm at with the N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 9 hours ago, R1_Demon said: Whoooop! Whooop! I like cookies! LOL! Problem is, I'm now trying to search and figure out what load data to use for N320 to make 40 major under a Hornady 180 XTP HP at 1.135 for my XDm 5.25". I haven't had much luck at all because everyone is loading coated bullets and way longer than me. Plus VV only shows info for lead TC 180 on their site for N320. So I have calculated it at 4.1 gr to start and 4.6 gr max going from their lead and HP data with N340. So I was going to try a ladder of 10 rounds each from 4.1 to 4.6 and chrono it to see where I'm at with the N320. You're welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 9 hours ago, R1_Demon said: Whoooop! Whooop! I like cookies! LOL! Problem is, I'm now trying to search and figure out what load data to use for N320 to make 40 major under a Hornady 180 XTP HP at 1.135 for my XDm 5.25". I haven't had much luck at all because everyone is loading coated bullets and way longer than me. Plus VV only shows info for lead TC 180 on their site for N320. So I have calculated it at 4.1 gr to start and 4.6 gr max going from their lead and HP data with N340. So I was going to try a ladder of 10 rounds each from 4.1 to 4.6 and chrono it to see where I'm at with the N320. You can't use data from a different powder (N340) and expect any similarities. It could / would be dangerous to assume that they are in any way similar. You wouldn't use load data for titegroup with Clays, so why would you use data for N340 to extrapolate a load for N320? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 11 hours ago, GrumpyOne said: You're welcome Thank you sir. I have probably even seen this thread before but I missed it on my search due to the parameters I put in. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 11 hours ago, GrumpyOne said: You can't use data from a different powder (N340) and expect any similarities. It could / would be dangerous to assume that they are in any way similar. You wouldn't use load data for titegroup with Clays, so why would you use data for N340 to extrapolate a load for N320? Well, I didn't exactly. I saw there was a 15% difference in the N340. Then I compared that to the N320 which also showed the same type of 15% difference. So that is why I then applied that 15% difference to the N320 again and that is how I came up with the 4.1-4.6 grain spread for the JHP. But any which way, I'll go back over that link you provided. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 anyone have more to report back about their impressions with sport pistol in 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 9:53 AM, rowdyb said: anyone have more to report back about their impressions with sport pistol in 40? About to place an order for some. Will let you know in a couple of weeks what my 2 cents is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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