akeefer Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Hey gang, If I wanted to get into the world of polymer again. Can you give some thoughts to this age old argument again? I can shoot Glock, but something just doesn't feel right in the hand with it. I do like the XDm feel, but worried why they are seemingly less popular. I have a shop close by that I can get a ZEV trigger if I choose the Glock or a PRP trigger if I choose an XDm. I would probably look for a .40, as I reload that often and I have a lot of supplies for it. Also, I reload lasercast lead, so maybe I would have the replace the barrel on the Glock to be safe with that? I shoot a 1911 the best, but want double stack and money is too tight right now for the world of 2011. I know this has been hashed out before, but haven't seen many recent threads. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niceash Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Look up some of my old posts. Love my Glock, and with the mods I had done it fits my hand better and runs well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidah Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 You know this really is beating a dead horse.. again and again. All three of them are good guns, and all three of them have their quirks. Pick the one that fits you the best, which may or may not include the 'best' trigger, and just shoot it. Heck, you may change your mind in a year too. Currently running a G34/41. Have run XD/XDm, and a junior son ran the M&P Pro 9L that I shot a bunch. Personally do not get a good fit with the M&P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thormx538 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Get a G35 -- you can always get a conversion barrel and shoot 9 through it. They're stupid easy to work on too -- you shouldn't need a shop to do anything on a Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeefer Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Thanks all. Got a deal of a 34. Thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Why limit yourself to just 2 brands? Buy a CZ P09 with a Pro Package from CGW's and throw rocks at the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Get a G35 -- you can always get a conversion barrel and shoot 9 through it. They're stupid easy to work on too -- you shouldn't need a shop to do anything on a Glock.Yes, you can work on a Glock all by yourself, but in the hands of a pro armorer, you'd be surprised how fantastic you can get those things shooting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 7 hours ago, DreGarciaTAT2 said: Yes, you can work on a Glock all by yourself, but in the hands of a pro armorer, you'd be surprised how fantastic you can get those things shooting. What exactly do you think a "pro" armorer can do for the world's simplest handgun that a patient owner cannot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 What exactly do you think a "pro" armorer can do for the world's simplest handgun that a patient owner cannot?Well, every single person who's ever shot my Glock is in awe at the trigger... which comes in right at 2.5# with a short, positive reset. And the stippling isn't just polymer that's been roughed up with a soldering iron, it actually was shaped for me, and is shaped in a way that increases the structural strength of the pistol, instead of making it more flimsy. I always compare Glocks to Honda civics, cheap, easy to work on, and the aftermarket is huge. But anyone can throw together a bunch of stuff from the internet and 'improve' it. But in the hands of someone who does it for a living, and really knows exactly how to refine and tune it... the results are much more impressive, and result in a much higher level of performance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEB Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 For poly guns, the xdm fits me best. I have had glocks and m&p, but they didn't feel as good to me as the xdm. Springer precision has a lot of good upgrades for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 2 hours ago, DreGarciaTAT2 said: Well, every single person who's ever shot my Glock is in awe at the trigger... which comes in right at 2.5# with a short, positive reset. And the stippling isn't just polymer that's been roughed up with a soldering iron, it actually was shaped for me, and is shaped in a way that increases the structural strength of the pistol, instead of making it more flimsy. Who did the work on your trigger and the grip stippling? And how did they make the stippling increase the strength of the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWSixgunner Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Dont worry about the barrel w cast bullets:https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 20/12/2016 at 3:25 PM, Southpaw said: And how did they make the stippling increase the strength of the frame? eeuu..good question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting for M Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Shoot them all and see what you like the best and go with that. I prefer the M&P. The Glock though has the biggest aftermarket support and following. I had my first up close experience with a Springfield (XDs) this week. The fit and finish of the internals was better than any Smith or Glock I've ever taken apart. That said, if I carried a Glock at work, I'd probably transition completely to that platform, I just can't get used to the transition back and forth from the difference in grip angle. Leatham beats most of us with an XD, Sevigney does it with a Glock and Miculek does it with an M&P, oh and Max does it with a Sig. They all have advantages, but, beware don't be surprised when all your plastic fantastics have over $1k invested in each.Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnboileau Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Is a drop-in Apex trigger pretty much the best you can do with an M&P? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Close enough. You can add a custom over travel stop of some sort, I did. 2.75 pounds and as clean / short as that gun will ever be. But honestly just clean / lighten the trigger on whichever of these guns fits you the best and put 10k rounds through it will lots of practice. It's not a sexy answer, but a well skilled operator will shoot all of them the same with a decent trigger of any kind. Edited January 21, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Who did the work on your trigger and the grip stippling? And how did they make the stippling increase the strength of the frame?Glock Prazision... look them up on instagram. Also, the strengthening is a result of the pattern used... and opposed to random roughing up of the frame... I'll post an exampleSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, DreGarciaTAT2 said: Glock Prazision... look them up on instagram. Also, the strengthening is a result of the pattern used... and opposed to random roughing up of the frame... I'll post an example Thanks. So how does the stippling increase the structural strength of the frame over a non stippled Glock? And you work for them or are sponsored by them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Thanks. So how does the stippling increase the structural strength of the frame over a non stippled Glock? And you work for them or are sponsored by them?Both, actually. LolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleLebowski Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 There is no way that taking away material makes the frame stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 There is no way that taking away material makes the frame stronger.Incorrect. Triangular and diamond reshaping does just that if executed correctlySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/4/2017 at 3:58 PM, DreGarciaTAT2 said: Incorrect. Triangular and diamond reshaping does just that if executed correctly Do you have a link to the scientific testing performed on your frames that measured the increase in structural strength of the frame as a result of your stippling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/4/2017 at 6:58 PM, DreGarciaTAT2 said: Incorrect. Triangular and diamond reshaping does just that if executed correctly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk lol this is rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Glock is the only one of the trio I'd even consider. If ordering off the menu is an option, I'd go with the PPQ for a polymer, striker gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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