mikeinctown Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Really doesn't matter which ones you buy as they almost all use the same coating (except Blue Bullets) with different colors. Pick the place that is closest to you so that you get them in one or two days. No groove from Blue Bullets works fine in my 1911 loaded short. Could be wrong, but IIRC they also went to no lube groove because as they started making heavier bullets you would have to seat them further in the case to get the same OAL. With the lube groove gone you could make the bullet shorter and not have to seat quite so far down into the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Using SNS no groove 180 FP in .40. Very pleased with this bullet. Groups on target are excellent. Bullet leaves no debris on the Dillon while loading. Believe they offer a discount code when ordering on case level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayUSPSA81 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 BBI is the best bullet I have used. Clean, cheap and accurate. I shoot them exclusively in 40 and 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Staff Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Also like BBI (10/180 no lube ring, 45 200's do have ring). I also use Acme as they have no lube ring on the 200's and discount code for BE users, but I do see bits of red around the press after a loading session (not a lot, just a few pieces here and there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 LOL! I know this is an old thread but Blue Bullets work great! Here my Trophy Match barrel after 200 rounds and a single dry cleaning patch. Bullet was the 230 gr. RNFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jripper Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Running 230 gr SNS no lube groove with great results. Accurate and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricPound Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Oooooh, lefty! Edited October 20, 2018 by MetricPound include picture reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahab1933 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Caution.. WEIGH the bullets,, the new style weigh more, The powers to be did not shorten body for the extra lead they used. I will not use non lube grove style bullets until they correct design, I tried them once. no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobi Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Yeah, poly coating is your "lube" so poly coated bullets with a lube groove are a holdover from molds intended to be used as standard cast with lube. As molds wear out, companies are switching to non-groove designs (because you don't need the groove). There are no issues with using non-grooved coated bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amegatek Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I use Acme 9mm and .45 ACP. I have used Blue Bullets in the past. Both are great.Sent from my Galaxy Note 8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major146 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Molly coated bullet go threw a Mr. Bullet feeder with out any problem. This has speeded up my loading greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubfromGA Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 3/7/2017 at 1:09 PM, pbcaster45 said: LOL! I know this is an old thread but Blue Bullets work great! Here my Trophy Match barrel after 200 rounds and a single dry cleaning patch. Bullet was the 230 gr. RNFP. Awesome. That's very encouraging to see. I'm sitting on a good stash of Blue Bullets in 200gr swc & 125gr rn. Just waiting on me to either set up my 650....or send it back to Dillon to exchange for a 750. Good to know the bullets are running clean for you. What powders have you been using with Blue Bullets ? I've got some TiteGroup and HS6. Also, have you had to do anything different than normal on expanding case head prior to seating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't do anything special for this load. I've only chronographed it with small pistol primers and it just made 165 PF, using large pistol primers should bring up the velocity a little. Bullet: Blue Bullets 230 gr. RNFP (Polymer Coated/.452) Powder: VihtaVuori N310 3.8 grs. Primer: Winchester Small Pistol Case: Mixed Blazer & Federal LOAL: 1.250 Recoil Spring: Factory (16 lbs.) No Buffer Pad Velocity: 721.87 fps ES: 42.16 SD: 14.21 Here's a load with Titegroup which I haven't had a chance to chrongraph. I used 4.6 grs. of Titegroup too - but it was a little snappier. Bullet: Blue Bullets 230 gr. RNFP (Polymer Coated/.452) Powder: Hodgdon Titegroup 4.3 grs. Primer: Winchester Large Pistol Case: Winchester & Remington .45 ACP LOAL: 1.250 Recoil Spring: Factory (16 lbs.) No Buffer Pad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsa Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 2:46 PM, ahab1933 said: Caution.. WEIGH the bullets,, the new style weigh more, The powers to be did not shorten body for the extra lead they used. I will not use non lube grove style bullets until they correct design, I tried them once. no more. Just curious as to what you feel needs to be corrected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igloodude Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I'm looking for the article I found, that found - all other things being equal - that coated bullets with the lube rings were slightly more accurate and slightly faster than the non-lube-ring equivalents. On that basis, I'm going to continue to order my SNS 200gr SWC with the lube rings because otherwise it seems to be a pure coinflip between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsa Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Interesting. Slightly faster due to the reduced bearing surface area...is that the thinking? And with lube groove more accurate? I've heard that the no lube groove versions are more accurate because of the increased bearing surface. It's interesting discussion but I don't think it matters enough for action shooting sports in regards to accuracy or velocity to have a discernible impact. Lube groove or no lube groove, they work well for me. No lube groove allows one to load to a longer OAL in some cases and that can be beneficial in 19/2011 style pistols. I also like the no lube groove for the slightly added extra weight (a grain or 2) at the chrono station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondering Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 3:39 PM, dsa said: Interesting. Slightly faster due to the reduced bearing surface area...is that the thinking? And with lube groove more accurate? I've heard that the no lube groove versions are more accurate because of the increased bearing surface. It's interesting discussion but I don't think it matters enough for action shooting sports in regards to accuracy or velocity to have a discernible impact. Lube groove or no lube groove, they work well for me. No lube groove allows one to load to a longer OAL in some cases and that can be beneficial in 19/2011 style pistols. I also like the no lube groove for the slightly added extra weight (a grain or 2) at the chrono station. I know this was last posted back in August, but if your question still stands - the difference in speed is a result of case capacity and bullet weight. If we compare an existing bullet style (with lube groove) to the same bullet with the groove removed, it'll be heavier. To correct the weight, usually the base is shortened; that results in more case capacity, lower pressure, and lower velocity for a given powder charge. Seating the bullet that same amount deeper will bring velocity back to where it was. The difference in bearing surface doesn't have much affect on velocity. Differences in accuracy happen because the bullet balance is changed. Sometimes it's better, but with certain designs that are balanced really well with a lube groove, accuracy can get worse when the groove is removed. If the whole bullet is re-designed for correct balance without a groove, accuracy can be just as good or better. Like you said though, we're talking about small accuracy differences, in a sport where it doesn't really matter much. I cast and coat my own, and have removed the lube grooves from a number of my bullet molds, so I have had the opportunity to do some direct back-to-back comparisons with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsa Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Makes sense if the bullet mold was redesigned when the lube groove was removed. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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