Mx556 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I this maybe a misprint ? L10 9mm major was in Frontsight Magazine. In the USPSA Rules app D3 on page 78, the min cal for major is .40. So I don't understand how that's legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I think they approved 357 sig in Limited since it doesn't give a capacity advantage. Edited since I completely missed the "10" in L10. Edited January 25, 2016 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Now your graphic showed up. That just means somebody used it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I am betting that the graphic is wrong.... (or I am curious as why someone would do that?) ETA (again). It just doesn't make sense since there is no such thing as 9 Major in L-10. Edited January 25, 2016 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 You can shoot 9X19 major in L10 if you want to, but it will be scored minor. There is no mag capacity advantage, L10 is10 rounds only, maybe that's why they call it L10.-------------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I always thought 38 super if loaded to major should be allowed to be major in L10, 9mm too I guess. As Larry stated since in L10 there would be no capacity advantage, it would seem a reasonable thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 How many people are going to actually shoot a major 9mm load in a gun without a compensator? I am for it if they pass chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 There is no 9 Major in L10, it's just 9mm and it's scored minor; it appears to be a mistake, along with a few others I saw with just a quick look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Only .357SIG is Major with a 9mm bullet in Limited and L10. In September of 2014, the USPSA BOD approved .357 Sig for Majorpower factor in Limited and L10 Divisions, effective January 2015 (Appendices D2 and D3, #5). Edited January 25, 2016 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm aware 357SIG is legal for major in Limited and that 357SIG uses the same bullet as 9mm, but 357SIG loaded major is not the same as 9 major so what does 357SIG have to do with this page out of Front Sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm aware 357SIG is legal for major in Limited and that 357SIG uses the same bullet as 9mm, but 357SIG loaded major is not the same as 9 major so what does 357SIG have to do with this page out of Front Sight? Gordon just likes talking about SIG.You know how us old guys get.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm aware 357SIG is legal for major in Limited and that 357SIG uses the same bullet as 9mm, but 357SIG loaded major is not the same as 9 major so what does 357SIG have to do with this page out of Front Sight? Do you think they meant something else other than 357 sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm aware 357SIG is legal for major in Limited and that 357SIG uses the same bullet as 9mm, but 357SIG loaded major is not the same as 9 major so what does 357SIG have to do with this page out of Front Sight? Do you think they meant something else other than 357 sig? I don't know what they meant, what they wrote was 9 major; I guess it make sense they may have meant 357SIG but wrote 9 Major if in fact 3% of the people shooting L10 are shooting 357SIG which I don't know. It's doesn't mean too much to me since I don't shoot Limited nor subscribe to the magazine so I guess I should stop talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Kneeling, the OP posted major 9, I just commented on it. Why don't you take the Front Sight magazine? Chuck doesn't like my G31 because it hurts his hands, running a 175 floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have no interest in printed publications, I don't like the clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have no interest in printed publications, I don't like the clutter. do you take your smartphone with you to poop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have no interest in printed publications, I don't like the clutter.do you take your smartphone with you to poop? Doing just that, right now.... Let you imagination roam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have no interest in printed publications, I don't like the clutter. do you take your smartphone with you to poop? Who doesn't?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thread drift, but what was the logic behind allowing 9mm major, .38 super, etc. in Open, but not in Limited/L10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thread drift, but what was the logic behind allowing 9mm major, .38 super, etc. in Open, but not in Limited/L10? Allowing 9 major in L/L-10 would obsolete all the ,40 guns out there based on mag capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thread drift, but what was the logic behind allowing 9mm major, .38 super, etc. in Open, but not in Limited/L10? Allowing 9 major in L/L-10 would obsolete all the ,40 guns out there based on mag capacity. plus people with glocks would blow off their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thread drift, but what was the logic behind allowing 9mm major, .38 super, etc. in Open, but not in Limited/L10?Allowing 9 major in L/L-10 would obsolete all the ,40 guns out there based on mag capacity. plus people with glocks would blow off their faces. Yes of course that would put 9mm at a capacity advantage if the rules changed now. What I was wondering is what was the initial logic when the rule was written for allowing some major calibers on Open, but not Limited/L10? Some shoot Glocks in Open. Is 9 major harder on the gun without the comp? I don't shoot Open so don't know how that all works. And even if no 9 major why didn't they allow .38 super, 9x23, etc. When creating the rules for Limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Is 9 major harder on the gun without the comp? Yes. Is that the reasoning? Maybe part of it, I think politics and inertia play a roll as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thread drift, but what was the logic behind allowing 9mm major, .38 super, etc. in Open, but not in Limited/L10?Allowing 9 major in L/L-10 would obsolete all the ,40 guns out there based on mag capacity. plus people with glocks would blow off their faces.Yes of course that would put 9mm at a capacity advantage if the rules changed now. What I was wondering is what was the initial logic when the rule was written for allowing some major calibers on Open, but not Limited/L10?Some shoot Glocks in Open. Is 9 major harder on the gun without the comp? I don't shoot Open so don't know how that all works. And even if no 9 major why didn't they allow .38 super, 9x23, etc. When creating the rules for Limited? You would have to go dumpster diving in the board minutes from 1992 and before when divisions were born. Might be there. Perhaps is was a Jeff Cooper thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 You would have to go dumpster diving in the board minutes from 1992 and before when divisions were born. Might be there. Perhaps is was a Jeff Cooper thing? Hi Chuck, yeah I'm curious, but not THAT curious to go digging through board minutes from 20+ years ago . Was hoping someone might know since I've been wondering that for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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